Episode #2 - Truth or Terror?

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they say wise men speak because they have something to say Yeah They also say fools speak because they have to say
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something Well here we are There you go Yeah we forget that one Well well relax
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Yeah Welcome back to the Gambler and the Guardian We're back for another episode I'm Nathan Um also known as the Guardian
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The Guardian That's me right this is my brother I'm Anthony also known as the
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gambler Yep We uh want to thank you guys for coming and sitting with us again today in our room having this open
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dialogue with us Um we got some really interesting topics to talk about today Um Anthony I don't know if you want to
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give it a start here Yeah So I'm sure everybody's seen the news seen viral
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clips all talking about uh the United Healthcare CEO was unalived
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and showing that this uh this dude um he
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he was the perpetrator And so we want to play a little clip talking about it and
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then we'll have some insight and kind of our thoughts on it
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So this was back when they were searching for him
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Yeah Obviously he's since uh been been apprehended
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To take the time to actually write on the shell casings indicates not only premeditation but also a deeply personal
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type killing And those words deny depose defend those are words often associated
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with the insurance industry Yep that's real
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This does not appear to be a random act of violence It appears a suspect was
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lying in weight for several minutes
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Yep Lots of threats
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This is just bringing you up to speed on all the information that's out there Yeah we're sure mostly everybody kind of
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knows what's going on but for those who don't we just want to like you said bring you up to speed real quick Um
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there's so much within this Uh one of the things that stuck out to me
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was that uh the writing on the bullets right um with doing something like that like I don't know maybe I'm see
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something between the lines I don't know But it looks to me that when that
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message was that's a message right like that's like he already kind of had like
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being caught on his mind I think when doing something like this like he didn't I don't think like somebody would do
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something like this and think they weren't going to get caught I think the message was was his was his deal right
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yeah So for me I definitely think he plans to be
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a catalyst to something bigger Uh he he says you know the message that he wrote
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on there was deny defend depose
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And that's that's a clear message that he's targeting the words of the
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insurance company and how they go through and look at insurance claims
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Well let me ask you something Um you actually worked in the insurance
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industry for a substantial amount of time You're quite knowledgeable of the insurance industry Can you shed a little
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bit of light on like how it works like uh you know other than uh us paying an
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insurance company to help us to uh get medical care from a doctor right um how
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does that system work yeah So what I would say first is this is a very
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complicated system It's huge Uh lots of people lots of big companies are a part
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of the insurance industry For me I was a salesperson I was an agency owner I
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worked for one of the largest individual medical insurance producers in the
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country Uh I was recruited and then I started opening up agencies At one point
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I had about 200 agents working underneath me Wow We did upwards of
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10,000 policies Our role was selling literally health insurance And one of
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our main carriers was United Healthcare Whoa You got to be kidding me Yeah Yeah
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One of the main carriers was United Healthcare right crazy Um there was many carriers I was a broker is what it's
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called So just like uh a mortgage broker you have multiple banks that you go to
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to sell their loans I was an insurance broker so I had multiple insurance
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carriers that we'd use to sell their policies whichever policy match the fit
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of our potential client right and all these policies are different uh and and
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so we had to go through and see the needs of the client and then determine which one best suits them and then also
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the price of that policy I was in the insurance industry prior to Obamacare In
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fact when Obamacare came about I I got out of the insurance industry and wrote
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my book and got into the real estate industry Uh it it just changed the industry so much And also I had some
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different things that happened that kind of made me like my stomach hurt and uh
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didn't feel that this was the right industry Like what yeah So this actually
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relates to this topic quite a bit Tell me Um yeah So
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I got this client and he was a local business owner in the community Uh I
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operated my insurance agency out of Apollo Beach Florida It's just just south of Tampa
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And this gentleman uh I don't want to say his name but he was a funeral
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director funeral home director and owner So he owned a funeral home and he and his family had owned it for something
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like 40 years and kind of a a pillar in the community
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I met him through networking events and the Chamber of
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Commerce Oh wow Okay You know so official official guy Yeah Official guy Um I mean this guy was awesome I I took
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a liking to him He also was supportive of me getting started in a new community
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and launching my business you know And so he asked "Hey can you uh see if you
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could help me with my insurance?" And I remember I uh one of the things you do
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when you're when you're supporting a new client in the insurance industry is first you look to see what they
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currently have because there's an aspect of in insurance where if you have a
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policy that is really good if it makes sense if it ain't broke and you're locked in and you uh let's say you got a
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pre-existing condition at that time a pre-existing condition would
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make it more difficult for you to get something new Yes And in fact what they do is they put what's called a rider on
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it So let's say for instance you had a knee injury and you had to get surgery like you've had right and then you went
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to get a new policy They'd say "We'll cover you but we're not covering your right knee because you had an injury to
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that right knee and we're not taking on that liability." Right so in going
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through the the there's a process and it's called underwriting Just like the mortgage industry where you go through
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and you see someone's creditworthiness their income their stuff like that This
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is where the underwriters of medical insurance companies go through and look
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at the insurability of the potential client meaning they look at all your
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health records to see what has happened in the past that might potentially lead
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to a huge claim coming later that the insurance company what they're trying to do is limit their exposure Right so
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going back to my story this gentleman he he had a policy and and it was I forget
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the the name of the company but I remember it was called the schedule of benefits plan And a schedule of benefits
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plan is a plan where they say it's similar to dental insurance where we'll
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pay up to $2,000 for this specific thing Okay
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we'll pay up to $5,000 on this specific thing And they just have literally a
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schedule of what they're willing to pay for specific occurrences These plans are
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the worst kind of plans you could get They limit the potential exposure of the
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insurance carrier They are the cheapest plans that you could get for that very reason What do you mean they limit the
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potential exposure to the carrier yeah because when you have a a maximum out of
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pocket based on this schedule of benefits for a specific occurrence let's say for instance if you have a heart
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attack they'll pay up to $50,000 Well $50,000 seems like a lot of money
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until you have a heart attack and you're in intensive care and the total bill comes out to be $250,000
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Yeah If you have that schedule of benefits what they'll do is they'll say "Well we're we uh had the deal with you
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It's all a contract This is all paperwork that says we're willing to do X if Y happens." Right so in that
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occurrence the client would be they'd get 50,000 paid for but they'd still owe
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200,000 in bills So the situation that happened with this
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potent this client that I had I signed them up um a traditional sign up when we
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went through the uh all the medical questions There's a ton of medical
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questions that you answer This is pre-Obamacare So you had to qualify medically in order to get the plan And
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then it goes through underwriting where the insurance company they look at it and they look at their records to see if
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what they're saying is accurate and if they could see anything that they find
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to ask questions for or deny them or even put a rider on a specific part of
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your body or something that may happen in the future based on what they found Mhm In this situation this client did
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not get any riders He was accepted fully Uh the plan itself was I believe it was
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a $2 million max out of pocket plan for the insurance company which is a large
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maximum right um I believe the plan had a $5,000 deductible and 100% covered by
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the insurance company afterwards Now compared to a schedule of benefits company where they have specific
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occurrences that can have a total out of pocket of each occurrence as a certain thing this
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was a plan that covered everything right so if for instance what happened to the
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client the client ended up having uh uh cancer and the type of cancer he had it
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was very expensive to go through and it cost $800,000 right so about a year and a half into
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the policy he started going in to get uh cared for and the bills started piling
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up Well he has this insurance policy that has a 2 million uh maximum policy
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limit which he has you know plenty to go He only had to pay 5,000 out of pocket
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to get to 100% covered right so
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year and a half later after now he's in remission saved his life right doing
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better Yeah he's doing better Um I get summoned to go and take part in a
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mediation where there is this client there with his
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attorney There's the insurance company which at the time was Assurance Health is who he
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took the policy out for And then it was the attorney given to me
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for my heirs and emissions insurance Every agent insurance agent has to get
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an heirs and emissions insurance policy What this is for this is you know we're
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just salespeople These insurance agents that you go to they're just salespeople They are knowledgeable in what the
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insurance policies cover and don't And their job is support you as a client to
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determine what what your needs are what is potentially possible that you may
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need and then also show you how much the price difference is based on the type of
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policy you're looking to to have enforce Right so now I'm sitting there in this
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room and there's this is the first time that I've had any part in a legal battle
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at all It's pretty intimidating There's you know a big conference table We're all
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sitting around multiple attorneys Here's my my client
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They told me coming in I I first met with the appointed attorney that was given to me from my insurance errors and
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emissions right and they basically said "You don't say anything
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You're kind of here on a formality." I'm like "Okay." So I'm watching what's happening And
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this uh this client is pleading well his attorney and him are
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pleading with the insurance carriers attorneys and there's a couple of them there and they're saying why the
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insurance carrier must pay the $800,000 and what ensues is the insurance carrier
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basically saying we're not responsible
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and then the mediator says to all of us okay we're all going to go in our
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respective rooms So everybody less left that area where we're all sitting around
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the table together and we all went into our own little conference rooms So I'm
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sitting there with my attorney and my attorney says "Okay we're just going to wait until we hear what's happening."
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He gives me enough then he goes "Okay Assurance Health has offered them
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$300,000 to settle this."
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Okay time goes by They declined the $300,000
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Okay so I mean time is just ticking here It's about an hour in Okay Assurance
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Health has offered them 400,000 but they want you to pay 50,000 And I'm
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like bro what did I have anything to do with this i just sold the policy I'm
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just an employee Well I'm not an employee No no I I'm a This is when you owned the company Yeah I I own my own
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brokerage So essentially you were an affiliate of United Health Yes In this
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case it was Assurance Health not United Health that was the insurance carrier Yeah Okay In that case Yeah In this case
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uh but this goes perfectly into place with what Manion is speaking of relative
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to claims right so at some point I am forced with a
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decision have my ENO carrier pay $50,000
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towards the 800 the insurance carrier Assurance Health
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would pay $500,000 and this will all be settled and it comes down to a decision
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on my end where the client is willing to accept 500,000 from Assurance Health and
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50,000 from my uh insurance errors and emissions insurance Mhm If I say yes and
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I'm sitting there talking to this insurance agent or I'm sorry not the agent the lawyer for the errors and
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emissions insurance and I'm saying I didn't do anything wrong I just did
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exactly what was in the rules I asked all the questions properly
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They're just trying to deny this claim but it seems like the claim is viable Why should anything come out of my end
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and how negatively does this affect me as an agent showing that this happened
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and the lawyer assured me this doesn't have any negative things on you
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Maybe we should have a call with the higherups in the airs and emissions insurance company that I work with It
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seems to me that you're saying like that this is like layers upon layers upon
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layers It is 100% So what ends up happening is I get on the call with some
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higher up this airs and emissions company The attorney intros us says this
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is the deal that's on hand This person knew about what we were doing So he had
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whatever was in front of him to speak to me about it and basically told me he
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said "Anthony I understand that you did everything by
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the book and we understand that this won't affect you in a negative way
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However if you choose to say no
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us as an errors and emissions insurance company could potentially be out 800,000
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So we are wanting you to say yes but we'll take care of it We'll take care of the 50,000 Wow Well that's why I have
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the insurance It's their job to cover this right yeah If I get sued it's on them right so for them because of the
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risk was 16 times higher if I said no
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they said "We want you to say yes." And I was basically forced to say "Yes pay
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this guy." Even though I did no wrongdoing it had nothing to do with me
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I was forced to take the deal M so in the end the client was not made whole
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He got 550,000 instead of the 800 Well in many cases
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you know and that that that's like a good outcome right that's a good outcome Like in many cases right because you
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know there's many many times where you know there's all types of different types of legal proceedings in which
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people cannot afford representation and then you know like you you're in a bad
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medical situation you get screwed over by an insurance company you have no money for legal representation It's like
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your butt is just out in the wind at that point You know what I mean and um that seems like it seems to be the crux
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of this matter with this with this with this kid Yeah this is at the the base of
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what he's saying and when we get to his manifesto we'll be able to speak more about this Before we do get to his
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manifesto though like uh in the report they had said that um he was there a few
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minutes prior to the crime So that indicates to me that either there's some type of witnesses that saw him there or
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there's some type of CCTV footage Right We know that there's CCTV footage We've all seen that Um but they also said that
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um maybe this is just me being me but they said that the kid that they had his fingerprints at the scene of the crime
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which struck me to be as odd because uh he was wearing gloves He was wearing gloves when he committed the crime I
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mean you know who knows he was there for a few minutes He could have been there and then all of a sudden just been like got ready But like like this is not that
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kind of crime It seems to be especially with this kid Seems this kid seems to be very smart very well not just smart very
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well thought out right oh yeah Like uh in his craft very precision He literally had a a silencer on his gun Yeah So it
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looks it looks that um I'm a little skeptical of the reports that are that are coming back as of right now Um we're
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not really going to know what's going on with this situation or at least what we'll be told is going on with this
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situation until uh he goes to court because this one stinks man Yeah this one stinks
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It doesn't it doesn't smell right Uh I don't know Even even his even his
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manifesto is just you know there's some strange there's some strange things in it as well You know let let's play the
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second clip that we have of when he uh he arrives at court Excuse me
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As an insult in the American people
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one more time out of insult the intelligence of the American people It's
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an insult to the intelligence of the American people and it's living
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experience So basically he's saying like look we
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already know what's going on We're going through it every day Yeah Like you guys are like you know we know what's going
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on Like there's a lot of this you know a lot of uh
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a lot of different subjects right now that things are happening that is bringing an awakening to the people
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and um you know I think it's I think it's great I think it's absolutely great that it's happening You know it's all
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it's great for the growth of society as a whole but it brings me concern Yeah So
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for me I believe in truth I believe in your word right
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and what I'm seeing is happening is there are some people who are standing
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up against companies people platforms
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that you can't stand up against because they will shut you down without without naming any specific event But um I I
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recall prior to the last election of uh former
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president now president-elect Donald Trump there seemed to have been an
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awakening of the people all around the world Um people were taking to the streets for
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all types of reasons man standing up for their rights Like in France that's when they like went crazy in the streets
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Thousands and thousands of people were out there with those yellow vests on And again my concern is that these times
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occur and um there's some people up you know up high man that that that don't
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like awakening of people And uh my concern is that there's going to be
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another event similar to if not something like uh the one that occurred
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in in that time period that you know would just take us more
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time just send us around and take us more time to get somewhere You know just more delay on our development as a as a
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culture as a whole as a people as a whole and all all of these things But
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yeah you know what I'd like to get to i'd like to start reading
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We want to read exactly word for word what it says in his
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manifesto non- selectively Okay So um he
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says "It's easy to quickly and thoughtlessly write this off as the
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manifesto of a lunatic in order to avoid facing some uncomfortable problems it
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identifies But it's simply impossible to ignore how precient many of his predictions about
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modern society turned out He was a violent individual rightfully imprisoned
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who maimed innocent people while these actions tend to be characterized as
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those of a crazy lite However they are more accurately seen as those of an
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extreme political revolutionary Now who he's talking about is a paper written by
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Theodore John Kazinski and this is Industrial Society and its future Ted
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Kazinski Wait a minute Yeah Ted Kazinski Isn't
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that the uni bomber Oh I dude So that's who he's talking
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about when he says that first paragraph right i just caught that That's crazy Yeah He's talking about the uni bomber
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So a take I found online that I think is interesting had the balls to recognize
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that peaceful protest has gotten us absolutely nowhere And at the end of the
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day he's probably right Oil barons hasn't listened to any environmentalists
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but they feared him When all other forms of communication fail violence is necessary to survive
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You may not like his methods but to see things from his perspective is not
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terrorism It's war and revolution Fossil fuel companies actively suppress
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anything that stands in their way And within a generation or two it will begin costing human lives by greater and
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greater magnitudes until the Earth is just a flaming ball orbiting third from
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the Sun Peaceful protest is outright ignored
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E economic protest isn't possible in the current system So how long until we
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recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense
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Whoa Whoa So he's basically saying that peaceful protest like Gandhi did
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right doesn't work anymore If you want to use economic protest by not putting your
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dollars there he's saying that it's not capable of working to the level It's not enough And he's saying the only way to
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spark change is through violence He says these companies don't care about
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you or your kids or your grandkids They have zero qualms about burning down the
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planet for a buck So why should we have any qualms about burning them down to
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survive he says "We're animals just like everything else on this planet except
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we've forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any
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other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival."
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He quoted "Violence never solved anything is a statement uttered by
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cowards and predators." So that's his manifesto
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Look man I'm going to say this
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Got to be careful with this what I'm about to say right now Yeah you seem all bottled up here man Yeah because
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I don't believe his views to be so extreme Um if you look at the history of the
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United States even if we're even looking at like we're not even talking about this type of stuff right we're talking
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about uh which which this is I guess uh medical care is a basic human right Okay
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medical care is a basic human right It's not in history only in the United
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States in history when people take to the streets with violence does good
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change come about Uh the civil rights movement being
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one one of those things Um you know of which it was a shared a shared model Uh
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some was violent some was peaceful but um that's that's that's how America is
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Unfortunately we were It's not just America Nate Yeah Everywhere right violent revolution everywhere There uh
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when a tyrannical government got too strong people stood up against it right
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when a leader was I don't even know if that's Dude I'm going
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to be honest with you this stage in the game like I feel like there's there's
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there's so much uh involvement of our government in coups and other countries and stuff like like I don't even know
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when the people are really rising up against the against the tyrant like I don't really like it's hard to decipher
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what the truth is about what's going on in the other country because you know our media is politicized and weaponized
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and being used to propagandize us into thinking that this is what's going on over there So we're okay with whatever
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occurrence happens that we had some type of influence Yep With Yeah It's uh
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really tough for me too man For me there's an aspect of seeing his
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manifesto just reading that to to our listeners
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It was it was hard to read because man I'm antiviolence
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you know Um Yeah I've never I've I've known you since I was 10 years old I've
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never seen you get into an intense argument with somebody let alone a fight Yeah Well you haven't seen me around my
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brother that much That's another story Um shout out to Nick Baji Shout out Nick
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Baji Um so that being said as I read
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this and I think about my involvement in the insurance industry and selling all
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these policies and talking to clients the reason that I got out of the insurance industry cuz man after you
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have 10,000 clients guess when they call you
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when the insurance company decides to not pay a claim and they've went through
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every single way possible to have something be worked out because
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they're about to lose their house They're losing everything they have because their life was saved by this
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procedure that was done and now financially they're being put through it again
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They call you the insurance company or the insurance agent They've already called the insurance company They've
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already dealt with a ton of underwriters They've already talked to uh attorneys
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and they're calling you the insurance agent to go as the last straw like "Hey
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maybe you could do something." So at some stage it got to where I'm in this
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industry I'm making a ton of money cuz I was pretty good at it and I was a leader
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amongst people right so I train people up A lot of these people are are very
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very successful to the tune of tens you know hundreds of millions of dollars in
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the insurance industry Top 1 percentile Uh yeah but uh what I know about the top
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1% it's a lot smaller than you think man Yeah Um but but that being said for me
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the my heart could not handle the thought of me making all this money
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selling these policies knowing what's going to happen If something really goes
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wrong and they and they try to max out that policy at 2 million bucks
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the insurance company's going to decline it It's just a matter of when Yeah And then they're going to be calling me and
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I'm going to have to deal with those feelings I I'm an empath You know
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you know this about me I I love people I care about people So
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hearing that stuff and wanting to help them and then getting the door shut in my face Although I'm trying to help I
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was able to help a few get stuff done that they couldn't get done just cuz I somehow had some kind of pool because I
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sold so many policies and was connected to the number one insurance producer in the country right so
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for me it was too much I had to get out of that industry cuz I didn't feel good about it uh Yao's making money and you
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know if I stayed in that industry right now money would not be a problem at all You know that being said I I couldn't
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live with myself Everybody has a different
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way of sleeping at night You know some people could go steal and rob somebody
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This is as wrong as two left shoes There's no rationalizing
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this Um I I will say there's there's other people that that are in the
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insurance industry and the way that they look at it they say the carrier does what the carrier does I
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can't control that But what I've done is get somebody insurance policy that's the best price and the best coverage that
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they can afford right so I could understand them being able to sleep at night for them For me it was just too
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much I don't encourage what with uh what what what Luigi Manion did but what I
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want to say is sometimes it's necessary for things to happen to bring awareness to certain
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things to shed light on them because this this is something that is been stewing and brewing for
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far far too long and there's far too many people that I've heard over time uh
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that have been impacted by this in a negative way and uh you know like don't take this the wrong way when I say this
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right like the word the word f finally somebody uh did something that is going
36:35
to bring light Yeah Well and and I I will say this real quick Um
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you know it's it's my biggest sympathies and condolences to the families of of this man who was un alived you know like
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at the end of the day he he was a human being Yeah Exactly But
36:56
like when you get to a certain level in in in certain industries and you have
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the ability to write the book you know when you have the ability to to set the
37:08
rules and you have the ability to say "Hey I'm going to make things more difficult
37:14
or I'm going to make things easier for the people." Yeah
37:19
you know uh I think something like this happening hopefully will make people think a little bit more
37:27
about the type of decisions that they're making and the impacts that they're going to have on the masses Yeah So to
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just so let you know my thoughts on that is yeah people are people and companies
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they operate uh for different reasons United Healthcare although you'll see
37:45
their uh commercials and it's they're helping people and all this stuff that
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shit's all fake Um they're in it to make money It was the most profitable
37:55
insurance carrier out of all of them Uh so to the tune of last year something
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like 30 something billion dollars Um they this is it's all very connected how
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they make all their money They're vertically integrated to the systems that work with the hospitals and all
38:14
this stuff They have their doctor's networks that are part of their network so they could you know control who gets
38:20
to see who And and so this is a really big thing I I for the sake of the
38:27
podcast I think we should leave it as I was just going to say that um cuz this this this this uh this guy's situation
38:34
is just starting for him it's not over and we're going to be coming back and revisiting this and I can tell uh by the
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way you're talking about it that um there's a lot more it looks like that you have to say about this Yeah But this
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is also a scary thing you know Uh I mean uh this is something where you know
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copycats are being talked about right so so they're saying oh man is put away but
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now because this is out there like you said he may be the spark of something bigger in a way to show uh uh that this
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is not okay and people are celebrating him Yeah Yeah Well there was actually a
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lady um a couple days ago who was arrested because she was on the phone with an
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insurance company and she was dissatisfied with with the outcome of her phone call and she said something
39:27
along the lines of you guys are next Yeah And they arrested her Yeah These
39:33
I'm sure these things happen uh more than were known I mean just being an
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insurance agent I've been cussed at sworn at threatened
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when I I literally all I am is the guy to take your information to put it into the policy that they're offering That's
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all I am And but people are that uh you know their lives It's their lives you're
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when you're in charge of somebody's health when you're the uh person that
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they speak to related to their health and maybe even their life if you sell
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life insurance like I did this is uh it's something very important to people
40:20
for good reason I think the next move that the government makes in this
40:25
situation is going to determine a lot It's going to say a lot too about where they stand because um
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they can go and make more protections for these types of figures in the insurance industry Y and make because
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like you said you know this
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they can go and make more protections for these types of figures in the insurance industry Yeah And make because
40:56
like you said you know these people get threatened every day and I'm sure on the phone they were getting threatened every
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day prior to this happening forever Oh it's happened now Believe me people are
41:06
making threats and going to jail Yeah So is this a thing that is going to persist
41:12
is it going to be enhanced is this something that they're going to build law around this is something to keep an
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eye uh an eye open for Yeah We're going to keep touching back because that's going to tell us
41:23
where the government stands in this Like we already know The fact of the matter is they need to install more protections
41:30
for us the people against these vampires because this what these people are They're blood suckers man Uh there it's
41:36
all tied together man I mean uh just to put something very quick on it and then
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we can move out is the same big companies that uh are the majority
41:49
ownership in United Healthcare and all these healthc care insurance companies
41:55
are the same ones that also own the food companies Oh really the same ones that
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own the hospitals same ones that own the banks same ones that own every piece So
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why is it not a monopoly when they do stuff like that well because
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I don't know man This is this is a a bigger subject that we get to get into down the road Um and and and it's a
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subject that lots of people have have put out there and talked about putting it out so people would see But it still
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doesn't stop uh you know my elders from
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holding stock in Black Rockck or Vanguard or State Street that are the ones that own everything So because
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they're looking at it going I'm good I'm making a 14% return I'm happy Cool Well
42:46
you don't know who you just sold out Uh let's let's move on to our next thing which is uh some weather related stuff
42:52
like Yeah Yeah I was um I was I was in my house I think I was in my man cave
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and um suddenly I had this blaring alert on my phone Oh And uh I looked down and
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uh for the first time in my life you know I live I'm from California I lived in uh Miami out of Miami Florida South
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Florida for 12 years First time in my life I've ever received a tsunami
43:20
warning alert Yeah You know and uh so I guess there was an earthquake up in um
43:27
off the coast of somewhere northern California maybe Humbled area or somewhere up there
43:33
And um and they were thinking it was going to be a tsunami They were thinking there was going to be a tsunami Yeah Bugged out Well this first clip let's
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play this clip Um parts of California were hammered by
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severe storms yesterday A tornado touched down in the town of Scots Valley
43:53
That's about an hour south of San Francisco Yes San Francisco Captured on this surveillance video from a local bar
43:59
and grill You can see it there And and you can see the damage left behind Trees snapped in half Cars damaged by flying
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and falling debris Police say five people were hurt Some residents say they're just happy they lived through it
44:13
To be honest with you I thought this could be the end of my life It was that strong I heard someone scream "There's a
44:20
tornado." So I ran out to the window to see and there were things flying around That's not smart by the way Was making a
44:26
bunch of noises So that's outside San Francisco But nearby downtown San
44:31
Francisco experienced its first tornado warning That's what you're talking about history The National Weather Service
44:37
says ultimately it did not find evidence of tornado actually touched down attributing much of the damage from that
44:42
storm to straight line winds of up to 80 miles an hour Yeah There's actually both a tornado warning and a tsunami warning
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Yeah And um like so for those of you that don't live in
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California uh we don't have tornadoes in California Yeah We have earthquakes This is non-existent
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So um there's a lot of environmental things that are happening um that we've
45:07
seen this year that uh that are absolutely strange One of them is that um they're catching blue fin tuna
45:15
outside of the Golden Gate Really I thought they they were supposed to be on the East Coast primarily from what I
45:22
know Um but yeah they're they're out there and so right now it's uh crab
45:28
season in the Bay Area and um right now nobody's catching crab Usually we're
45:35
we're Oh yeah we have tons of them Yeah right now nobody's catching crab Uh I believe it might have something to do
45:41
with this with the with the temperature of the water Y um I don't know I can't I I don't know what the you know there's
45:49
there is uh impacts uh of the climate you know with us being
45:55
here and all these other things that are happening on an industrial level there is impact so um
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I don't know it is just off topic but I don't think people really understand
46:08
that the possibilities of the weather change right um there was there was a time
46:14
many many years ago in um in Montana where the weather changed 100°
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in one day in a 24-h hour period Yeah And it's actually in the Guinness Book of World Records Um and uh yeah we'll
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speak on that Let's let's play this second clip that we have here Um
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a whole lot of questions tonight after a tsunami warning in Northern California ordered millions to flee the coast
46:46
yesterday Well that turned out to be a false alarm So we wondered just how accurate are these alerts and what would
46:53
happen here Good question We got one in Southern California Let's go to Kal News reporter Tom White live in Marina del
46:58
Rey Tom what did you find out well Jasmine the answer's pretty
47:04
complicated but experts say that they think that local officials did the right thing because they just didn't have a
47:09
ton of information when the earthquake happened But in terms of what would happen here if we got one of those alerts well just picture being in Friday
47:15
traffic like we were tonight on the 405 It's gridlock It's so packed you can't get anywhere So what would happen if you
47:22
got a tsunami alert while you're sitting on the 405 on a Friday night
47:27
friday night traffic on the 405 Total gridlock Imagine getting a text with a
47:33
tsunami warning telling you to evacuate while you're trapped in this If you think it can't happen just rewind 24
47:40
hours Check out this tweet from Berkeley in Northern California after Thursday's massive 7.0 quake off the coast The city
47:48
of Berkeley has issued an evacuation order due to a tsunami coming to West Berkeley Evacuate now People in the
47:55
tsunami zone are in immediate danger because of the traffic here Just imagine that everybody wants to rush out Shuroke
48:02
lives very close to the coast We asked him what he thinks would happen if an evacuation warning went out in LA during
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Friday traffic What happened on a Friday night you can't even get down the 405 Yeah man It's already traffic everywhere
48:15
on a regular day Was Kate Mendescino It's a hatchery of the most abundant
48:20
large earthquakes Hey you could cut that It's a transform a strike slip fault just like me offshore this kind of thing
48:29
happening extension and they're sending out all these warnings
48:36
there's an aspect of hey yeah you should let me know that something's about to happen there's the other side of it that
48:44
is oh yeah you let everybody know that something's going to happen all of a sudden is wide chaos going to happen you
48:50
would think that but it's my belief Because like I've been in quite a few situations where as you know where stuff
48:56
hits the fan and you'd be surprised that there's a larger portion of people that will actually freeze up and not do
49:02
anything You know what I mean so like there's going to there's going to be for the first cuz we have volume right
49:07
there's a ton of people You know what I mean so you're going to see it but you'll be surprised at the volume of
49:12
people that will just be scared in their houses Oh yeah Like you know there's some people like that if somebody comes
49:18
into your house that's going to hide in the closet and you know and and then you know there's other people that are going
49:24
to confront them and meet them with with whatever they want to meet them with So you know so the big questions are is it
49:34
these warnings come out what are you supposed to do and and for most people
49:41
like this didn't even happen It was a fake warning right it was well it was a warning that they had a reason to do it
49:48
but in the end the tornado didn't happen and in the end the tsunami didn't the
49:53
tornado that did happen to me uh was scarier than the tsunami thing because
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you know I've I don't know I'll have to look up and see like what the history is of tsunamis where we live Yeah But I've
50:08
never seen a tsunami You know I've seen a bunch of earthquakes Yep Never seen a tsunami up One time I was in a tornado
50:17
and it's scarier than anything Yeah Oh yeah I've been in
50:23
hurricanes Nobody talked Yeah I've been I've been in countless hurricanes More than I could count But but that's not
50:28
that bad I didn't hear anybody talk about the sound of the tornado To me that's the scariest thing This sounds
50:35
like a train is on top of you Oh yeah Yeah Yeah Power dude Yeah It's insane So
50:42
talking about hurricanes tsunamis earthquakes
50:48
you know makes me makes me think of the 1989 World Series earthquake I actually
50:53
wore the hat today Um and and so this is
50:59
you know something that we both live through Yeah Right You you were what in
51:05
San Francisco at the time i was in San Francisco You didn't come to South City yet We didn't get to meet yet No no So
51:11
we were both 8 years old Yeah Yeah Yeah It was uh So for me I was
51:18
actually You know what John play play the clip and we'll we'll show them where I was
51:30
So this is the A Bridge series the Giants versus the A's Of course you
51:36
wore the A's hat today Of course I did This park is no longer there by the way
51:42
They tore it down They tore it down We used to street race behind it though
51:48
Hey right over his right Hey pause that Candy Maldonado Wow that's crazy Right
51:55
over his right shoulder is where I was sitting with my dad
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Was that Ricky oh
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So that's when the earthquake hit Well
52:13
I don't know if we're on the air Yeah So you could pause this
52:21
So So I was sitting with my dad I got to miss school because my dad got World
52:28
Series tickets and we're sitting in the bleachers in the in right field It was right over the guy's uh shoulder that
52:35
was speaking is where we were sitting And I remember it was so loud there cuz the
52:44
Giants had lost the first two games in the series So we were being swept by the
52:49
A's right and the A's I don't know if you remember back then but their team was they were good Shout out Ricky
52:56
Henderson Yeah exactly They were really good So um so
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when it started shaking everybody was so loud and then it started shaking and there was like
53:10
moment of silence where people were like what the what and then after it stopped
53:18
everybody started saying shake this place and others were saying we will
53:24
rock you We will rock you Yeah Yeah They just started chanting and and you know
53:31
everybody shook right we're on the bleachers All of a sudden people are like stomping Boom Boom And my dad what
53:39
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Thank you again Zenergy We appreciate you guys So they're all everybody's going crazy They're all pumped up for
54:25
the game The earthquake happens They're they say over the loudspeaker
54:31
"We may ask you to come on the field." I'm like "Dad let's go on the field Let's go on the field." He's like "We
54:37
getting up out of here Come with He literally grabbed me by the shirt pulled me." And we started you know trekking
54:44
out of there Now on the screen here you see there's like this is a little uh Mac
54:50
Quest The B is Candlestick Park right and A is El Camino High School So I
54:59
lived one block from El Camino High School where both Nathan and I went to high school And so it's it's essentially
55:06
it says 7 miles from there to there Well getting out of the stadium and to
55:14
my house it took us like five hours Oh right
55:20
And and I remember we got back and you know everybody's still in shock right
55:28
everybody all the lights are out on the street Um in fact my mom started like
55:33
putting together like we had all the camping gear you know my dad hunted and fished camped and all that So started
55:39
putting out and making chili for the whole block So next thing you know they got the radio You remember when they
55:45
used to have radios m they they had the radio out there and everybody's sitting around in the camping chairs eating
55:52
chili people from the block coming up and down you know making sure everybody's okay you know handing out uh
55:59
little candles um because you know lights are out right and then John could
56:05
you play this next clip that we have here
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now when the earthquake struck there was some minor panicking down below in some of the mezzanine sections but most just
56:17
about all of the folks were able to make their way out of the ballpark without uh any injuries
56:24
Make their way out as well escorting their families to buses But the main story as just Marlo just pointed out was
56:31
in the rest of the Bay Area in the East Bay It was on the Nitz Freeway 80
56:38
interchange the Cypress interchange not far from the Oakland Coliseum where the interchange collapsed Now the latest
56:45
figures we have literally cars squashed under at least 100 people died in that
56:50
mishap Earlier we had reports of that figure go going up to about 200 Y
56:56
they're still not exactly sure how many people were injured At least 100 fatalities at least 400 injuries as a
57:04
result of that terrible tragedy in the East Bay of the San Francisco Bay area The NITS freeway is closed down Along
57:11
with the Nimtts of course also the Oakland San Francisco Bay Bridge
57:17
I forgot the NITS was even Yeah So during the World Series that is
57:25
the only time that the San Francisco Giants got to the World Series against
57:30
the Oakland A's in the middle is the Bay Bridge and that
57:36
gets shaken and uh the upper deck clap collapsed to the bottom deck It's a funny thing So I I was there in the city
57:42
I was in San Francisco uh at our house on 22nd in Bryant
57:50
We're sitting on the stairs in front of the house I was sitting at the bottom of the stairs Uh
57:56
my dad was at the top you know mostly every every day That's kind of what we did after school was like you know after
58:03
we play or whatever do our homework we sit outside and eat ice cream and dad drinks a beer Well my brother had gone
58:11
downstairs to do something and we were sitting there on the stairs
58:16
and when it first happened my brother was coming up the stairs and my dad said
58:22
"Damn bro You gaining a little weight there because it was shaking." He start He started to feel the little shake Yeah
58:30
And then it went from a little shake to a really big shake Yeah And I distinctly remember
58:36
seeing the the road wave like water Yep
58:44
Wave like water man And uh the the power lines were just going crazy And uh a
58:52
piece actually broke off of our house Oh really and fell down Yeah Like like like
58:57
nothing crazy like not even a whole 2x4 but like a trim piece Yeah you know but still it was like damn something And um
59:06
I remember that after that happened I was with a Green Beret
59:14
Yeah You were probably the safest There was no There was no panic There was none of that Uh Dad Dad got the got got the
59:22
got it got his arsenal right First things first and then he had a TV
59:28
Oh one of those little ones Yeah the little TV that's about a 7 in screen 6
59:34
in screen and he plugged it in So my dad had a 1976 Cadillac Coupe Deville that
59:41
he got from a job that he did and he plugged it into the cigarette lighter in
59:47
the Cadillac Oh yeah Then we had the news Then we found out what happened
59:52
They're like "The Bay Bridge just collapsed." And we were like "Bro we didn't know We thought the whole Bay Bridge fell We didn't know what was
59:58
going on." Exactly And um Yeah we uh so dad cooked uh spaghetti and hot dogs for
1:00:06
the whole block Yeah So same thing was going on at your crib Yeah man Yeah Um that definitely was a time that it
1:00:13
brought everybody closer together to realize we're all in this together Yeah
1:00:18
man We all we got man Yeah Um that sentiment is what I believe we need to
1:00:25
do today in our world now is bring everybody together cuz we are all in it
1:00:31
together It's it's unfortunate though that um when we're doing good we don't
1:00:36
feel like we need anybody And some of us don't think about the
1:00:41
people who may need us and um or actually who helped you to get to you
1:00:47
doing good or that people all of a sudden forget how they actually got there and what it took to get there Yeah
1:00:54
You can't get anywhere in life without people We're all a part of it you know like you could be you could be an
1:00:59
introvert You could be someone that's like you know not into you know having a whole bunch of
1:01:04
conversation being around a bunch a whole bunch of people But look if you want to do anything outside of just
1:01:10
surviving if you would like to thrive in life you know and and you know live in a
1:01:15
great sustainable way you're going to need some people around you Yeah man Yeah Wow That's uh that's a good point
1:01:22
man Um that's a good point you know Um
1:01:29
hey John can we uh do the most extreme weather change now i think Oh yeah Here
1:01:35
it is Okay So this is You were talking a
1:01:42
little bit earlier Nathan about the craziest temperature change in literally
1:01:48
one day Yeah it was it was in um I I believe it was in Browning
1:01:55
Montana which is uh actually the Black Feet Reservation Yeah
1:02:02
So when they colonized did all that stuff up there So the Black Feet and the uh and the um and the Simols if I'm not
1:02:09
mistaken are the only two tribes that didn't lose and they didn't quit So they
1:02:14
got treaties with the government if I'm not mistaken Gotcha But they pushed the black feet all the way up there into the corner of Montana And the black feet
1:02:22
actually share the reservation with another tribe that's like black feet kind of black feet but they're in um in
1:02:28
Canada Okay So the Black Feet reservation goes through Canada and um yeah I'm not uh certain of the exact
1:02:35
figures but uh it was literally 100° in
1:02:41
a 24-hour period So uh this has happened before on Earth
1:02:46
Yeah the that they went from it says -49
1:02:52
degrees Fahrenheit to 56°
1:02:58
Is that what it was that's what it was And um I think it it might have been broken
1:03:06
since I'm not positive on that but this is extreme but it is possible
1:03:12
to have temperature changes Yeah And I'm 100% certain that the people that were there at that point in time
1:03:19
thought the world was coming to an end Oh when it I'm sure this is not something that happened frequently It's
1:03:24
not something that ever happens but when it does this is possible So um looking
1:03:31
at different isolated incidents and weather
1:03:36
I don't know if that's the best gauge to determine whether or not it has to do
1:03:41
with climate change Yeah I don't think so You know what I mean but I don't I don't know that I That's a question I'm
1:03:47
asking Like I don't know that to you know I just I'm just wondering So growing up in in the city right mhm We
1:03:54
learned that if it's 85° out and you're hot as hell you still bring your big
1:04:00
jacket right you still bring a sweatshirt Yeah San Francisco Yeah So San Francisco uh it was Mark Twain right
1:04:06
that said uh the the coldest winter that he ever spent was a summer in San
1:04:12
Francisco if I'm not mistaken Yeah And it's like that like it's so random the weather over there man It could change
1:04:19
at the drop of a hat So and and so we learned growing up no matter where you
1:04:24
went you always had had a hoodie A lot of times you had a hoodie and and a parka right yeah and and you were
1:04:32
comfortable even if it was hot wearing that stuff because well in the next hour all of a
1:04:38
sudden the that fog might just come in and then you're colder than if you were
1:04:44
sitting in Lake Tahoe That's right Because it goes straight through your bones Yeah I remember walking to school
1:04:49
like being a crazy kid walking to school with no shirt on in the fog going to sunshine Yeah And it was just like Yeah
1:04:57
You know what I'm saying yeah Um all right So moving on here Um
1:05:05
we got like a huge bust fentanyl bust
1:05:12
The activities that are going on right now seem to be uh the drug activities in
1:05:17
uh in the country and all over the world seem to be at an uptick at this time I don't know if this you know usually when
1:05:24
I don't know if it isn't at an it is at an uptick because from what I know uh
1:05:30
during election times a lot more of these busts occur because it looks good for politics I guess that's right Huh
1:05:36
Yeah I forgot about that So but recently there has been some really big
1:05:42
occurrences that have that have happened Let's play the first one there Go
1:05:48
Look at this New images out of Mexico tonight of a massive drug boss A massive one Take a look Authorities say they
1:05:54
confiscated three tons of methyl That's a lot And 530,000
1:06:00
fentanyl pills Those ones the blue ones that you see right there No word tonight So those weren't Viagra bro No dog Not
1:06:07
that little blue pill Imagine that Imagine imagine that
1:06:13
getting in your hands and you thinking that you're taking a Viagra Yeah All of a sudden you're mapped out or your auditor Yeah Yeah So that was uh so
1:06:23
6,000 pounds of meth That's hell of math Well of fentanyl No no it was 530,000
1:06:33
fentinel fentinel pills So you got it reversed So it was it was uh three tons
1:06:40
So how much meth was it what was the number yeah I thought the number was 530,000
1:06:46
pills of meth and then 6,000 lbs or three tons So let me just put let me
1:06:52
just put you on Yeah cuz I know you don't know Meth isn't sold in pills Yeah but that's how they describe it No I
1:06:58
think you got it That's what I'm trying to say I think you got it Oh I think you got it backwards Yeah Okay Well yeah
1:07:04
they have they had they had a ton of meth or better They had a ton of meth They had a lot Mhm Uh I don't know what
1:07:11
happens to them over there What's going to happen to those people i can tell you what would happen to them over here Well
1:07:16
what would happen here get into some trouble Have to do some federal time more than likely cuz that's a substantial quantity of this stuff Um
1:07:25
I don't know man Uh with with what's going on in politics right now and uh they're they're you know the line that's
1:07:32
being pushed uh with the drugs and the cartels and stuff I wouldn't be surprised if they might just hand them
1:07:38
over to us I don't know You never know I I do my best not to get political Um but
1:07:46
seeing all those drugs that's scary cuz all those drugs are definitely trying to come over here Look I don't want to be
1:07:53
political either But the fact of the matter is this this has a huge impact in our country and the people in our
1:07:59
country So like uh whether we want to or not it's tied in It's all tied into it
1:08:05
something needs to be done about it and the people that need to be held accountable to make something get done
1:08:10
about it are politicians Yeah So a question that I have that you might be able to shed some light on is
1:08:17
when you got 6,000 pounds of something
1:08:23
that is illegal and you're bringing it over It's definitely coming over in a tractor trailer or something like that They had a pickup truck bro with 6,000
1:08:31
lbs in the back of a pickup truck Listen that doesn't make sense to me And and then not the big question is this Would
1:08:38
you have that much weight that you're bringing over what you just drive it over like a
1:08:43
normal person coming over the thing or or do they have like uh certain setup to
1:08:48
have Let me just let me just tell you what my opinion is of this matter Uh I believe that I don't think those guys
1:08:55
got caught I think they got fed Yeah I think they were a distraction to something much bigger that came over
1:09:01
because usually Uh-huh When you're even dealing with those types of quantities that's a lot Yeah With those types of
1:09:07
quantities most of the time unless you have some sort of tunnel or something of that nature you have to have some type
1:09:13
of customs agents that are that are in line with what you're doing Okay And um
1:09:21
if you don't you're going to get caught Like there's no like there's no like paying your way out of one of those situations What you're saying is
1:09:28
potentially Yeah They got caught for three tons Did you see the truck they
1:09:33
were driving yeah but they didn't catch the 30,000 lbs They wanted those people
1:09:40
to get caught brother Yeah Okay So everything everything's a setup Everything is like well we're going to
1:09:45
sacrifice this because the overall good we're going to get all this and we're continuing our people that can afford
1:09:53
to lose that to sell that quantity though Yeah They're not going to risk it
1:09:58
all and do it in a stupid way like that You know what I'm saying of course So so
1:10:03
let's talk about the largest cocaine seizure in the Dominican Republic Look at this picture man Each one of those is
1:10:11
it looks like five six kilos Each one of those bags It's a lot of
1:10:17
work This this picture goes too big to have all the bags on the screen A lot of
1:10:23
work Yeah Um so so they say that the authorities in the Dominican Republic
1:10:30
say cocaine discovered in the country's largest ever seizure was headed to Europe not headed to the United States A
1:10:38
lot more money over there It was hidden in a banana shipment They found 9500
1:10:44
kilos So it was at the drug port in Sto
1:10:50
Domingo Cocaine was hidden in 320 bags which is like the bags like you saw
1:10:56
there with an estimated street value of 250 million Mhm
1:11:03
Yeah So they say at least 10 people are linked to the port are under investigation with early investigation
1:11:10
showing the bananas had arrived from Guatemala according to the National Drug Control DOT Damn So again
1:11:18
when you can sell a whole lot like this like you're going to come up with a sophisticated way to move it In my
1:11:25
opinion on this one moving that quantity in a shipment of bananas is crazy It's
1:11:30
not that sophisticated is what you're saying Because of the quantity of it like how much of it can you hide those
1:11:36
bananas if if a dog shows up are they going to smell bananas or they going to smell cocaine i think you or me would
1:11:43
have s would have smelled cocaine if we were anywhere near that stuff Yeah I try not to smell cocaine bro
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Um so moving on here This is kind of a thing Law enforcement officials are
1:12:45
closely monitoring Fabio ooa Vasquez as he returns to Colombia
1:12:53
Why don't you play this clip and tonight two infamous cartel kingpins facing very different realities right
1:13:00
now One a Colombian drug lord and key operator of the Medí cocaine cartel now
1:13:07
released from a US prison after a quarter century behind bars And the
1:13:12
other the subject of a manhunt by the federal government with a $15 million
1:13:18
reward for his capture NewsNation correspondent Jorge Ventura joining us live from San Antonio with the latest on
1:13:24
both of these cases Jorge Well Natasha first the US government now
1:13:30
increasing the reward for any information leading up to the arrest of cartel Kingpin Elmeno up to $15 million
1:13:37
from the original 10 million Eleno is known for transforming the cartel dealion
1:13:44
or the CJNG into the world's most violent and powerful cartels in Mexico Now he might have a cartel now
1:13:53
cocaine abandoning trafficking It recent push into fentinol smuggling has made a
1:13:58
top target of US and Mexican authorities The latest developments also follow the recent arrest of El Meno's son-in-law
1:14:05
Christian Guta in Riverside California We reported that here on this nation
1:14:11
these guys are related capture even faking his own death in Mexico which threw authorities off He actually fled
1:14:17
with a fake identification into the US illegally and was leaving a luxurious lifestyle in California Now authorities
1:14:23
say that he played a critical role in CJNG's international operations overseeing massive drug shipments and
1:14:29
laundering millions of dollars in cart profits His arrest is being called a major blow to the cartel but Elmano the
1:14:36
mastermind behind it all still remains on the run in Mexico Meanwhile Fabio OA
1:14:42
Vasquez a former Medí cartel leader has been released from an American prison after serving 25 years of a 30-year
1:14:50
sentence Ooah was at the heart of the cocaine boom in the 1980s fueling the US drug epidemic from his Miami operations
1:14:57
Ooah's empire was Pablo Escobar's partner right delhi authorities 40 tons of cocaine shipments while his
1:15:04
Miami base became a central hub for the mini games operation Yeah he was one of the main characters in Cocaine Cowboys
1:15:10
Also indicted for his alleged role in the murder of DA informant Barry Seal a chill reminder of how far cartel leaders
1:15:17
often go to protect their operations Oaw is expected to return to Colombia with
1:15:22
vast resources Natasha Ventur live in San Antonio
1:15:29
Thank you He he murdered Barry Seal If any of you guys have watched the
1:15:37
movie American Made Tom Cruz Yeah It has Tom Cruz in it and it's a story this guy
1:15:43
was a a pilot and he was actually a pilot that was kind of struggling being a pilot So what he what he did was he he
1:15:53
was flying to Colombia He would um he he he got some some cigars right um and he
1:16:02
was bringing back the cigars Maybe it wasn't Colombia Maybe it was Cuba Yeah And he brought back some Cubans right
1:16:08
and then as he left the plane he ends up having a CIA agent show up and saying
1:16:16
"Hey you know what's up?" And you know of course Barry Seal or Tom Cruz in this
1:16:22
case he was like "Oh well you know try not to you know uh," and then he gets
1:16:28
offered an opportunity Yeah Yeah And then the movie goes on that this opportunity literally meant he owned his
1:16:35
own airport and was bringing in just massive amounts multi-tonon quantities
1:16:43
Yeah um dropping them out of the airplane and picking them up and having this whole operation going on that literally led to
1:16:53
uh what was in in Cuba where they had the there's the the the fight with the
1:17:00
gorillas and and they uh got the whole
1:17:05
army going stuff maybe um I forget So anyways this
1:17:11
movie uh this ooa he was the one that that murdered him and so it's kind of
1:17:18
crazy U the other thing that I see that's like the the news is putting
1:17:24
these two people together They're basically saying we're releasing Fabio
1:17:30
ooa Vasquez but Eleno we putting a $15 million reward on his head Yeah I'm like
1:17:36
uh at a loss for words right now though I'm still kind of stuck on the the
1:17:42
relative of his that got caught in Los Angeles County somewhere Like look man
1:17:47
do they not like Mexicans in Saudi Arabia or like these non-extradition countries why when you have all the
1:17:54
money in the world would you put yourself in the clutches of the people that you know are looking
1:18:00
for you and your people why would like because you have a fake ID because you have money You think you're say like
1:18:05
dude like I don't I don't understand Yeah Like like what is in America
1:18:14
that made him say I'm going to risk it all and not go somewhere else where I would be okay like I don't I don't
1:18:21
understand Well Well I would say is you're not them you don't have the
1:18:26
resources they do nor the relationships that they have in order to maybe this is literally the
1:18:34
best place for them to be for obvious reason only or the only place right or the only place right um it's it's also
1:18:41
based on that's why I ask the question though because like like putting myself in their shoes in their shoes it's like
1:18:47
like self-preservation instinct number one like not getting caught like we can't do any of this other stuff
1:18:53
unless we're free Yeah However uh what if all this stuff is actually tied
1:18:59
together where they're they actually work together with the government with of course they
1:19:05
do you know So so if that's actually happening then you're not feeling like
1:19:11
you're putting yourself you're just continuing your business operations So basically uh his handlers went bad on
1:19:18
him essentially or something happened like that or he got caught One of the two Yeah Well how do you get caught
1:19:24
you're doing something that normally is okay that all of a sudden they say now's the time we're going to get them
1:19:32
So and I don't know much about this I learned most of my experience They looking for all them dudes Let me let me
1:19:38
tell you from watching movies All them dudes affiliated with that guy They looking for all them all the time That
1:19:43
don't stop Yeah Just so you know Yeah So like again like they know that like you
1:19:49
just putting yourself into the clutches essentially by coming over here Yeah Well someone has to be the
1:19:55
representative over here They ain't got family over here I'm sure they got family everywhere
1:20:02
You know I'm sure it seems like every person they talked to talked about on here had the ooa last name That guy
1:20:08
seemed like a val Exactly Seemed like he might be valuable Yeah I mean you know um Wow Yeah So this next uh story that
1:20:15
we're going to talk about is uh UFC fighter Bryce Mitchell This guy's extremely outspoken man And um I mean
1:20:23
when I say extremely outspoken he's extremely outspoken He fights for Christ 100% I support Bryce Mitchell A lot of
1:20:31
stuff that he's talking about uh how you call bringing uh awareness to
1:20:36
many topics And um he's using his platform to do it And uh yeah let's
1:20:43
check out what he has to say here about about Mr Mr uh Elon Musk Elon Musk At 5'
1:20:49
10 in tall this mixed martial artist also weighed in 146 pounds in 17 fights
1:21:03
Yeah So on this clip it says that he calls Elon Musk the mark
1:21:12
of the beast and he links Elon Musk brainchip to technology to biblical
1:21:19
prophecy Neurolink right yeah Neuralink Okay Yeah And um there's a whole bunch of stuff
1:21:26
that this kid is uh standing up and being outspoken about
1:21:32
again using his platform Uh he's always shouting freedom you know always saying
1:21:37
all glory be to Christ And um he's somebody that I would like maybe one day to do an interview with Very interesting
1:21:44
young man man He seems like he's very uh genuinely a genuinehearted
1:21:50
person Yeah It says in this article uh that they call him Thug Nasty Is that
1:21:56
his his nickname Thug Nasty Gain recognition for his elite grappling
1:22:02
becoming the only the second fighter to execute a twister submission inside the
1:22:08
Oregon uh octagon Um however his recent popularity stems from more than just his
1:22:14
skills From carrying a Bible and shouting freedom like Braveheart during
1:22:20
his UFC introductions to sharing his belief that earth is flat He captured
1:22:25
attention for his eccentric entricities
1:22:31
eccentricities as well Right Um so you know
1:22:39
this guy me I I don't know who this guy is I've never seen him before but I don't follow the UFC like you do Right
1:22:47
Um but he has another quote Communism like the world has never seen Mitchell
1:22:53
rip Musk like this Right Um
1:23:00
yeah he's got a podcast uh where he he went on this podcast Uh
1:23:05
that is Michael Bisbeing who I do know who he is He's a famous UFC fighter He went on the believe you me podcast and
1:23:12
he just slammed Elon Musk Neuralink and and the technology that he has Right I
1:23:20
don't know myself I'm against Neurolink I'm sorry I'm against I'm against Neurolink I feel like um I myself
1:23:28
believe in God I believe God makes no mistakes Whether we understand what he's doing or not is another story I believe
1:23:36
would God have wanted us to have more function he would have unlocked more of
1:23:42
a percentage of the brains that we already have that we're only using a very small portion of Yeah That's just
1:23:48
my opinion Yeah So the other side to that is well if God was perfect in his
1:23:54
way and you don't believe in some of that then you know if somebody was born
1:24:00
not being able to to see Mhm But they could get new eyes
1:24:07
Is that okay i don't I don't know what's okay or what's not okay Uh my opinion
1:24:13
restoring uh giving someone sight that has different that has never had sight
1:24:19
versus restoring sight on someone that did have sight Like I don't know you know I might feel differently about all
1:24:25
of these things So I couldn't tell you like I don't know man It's definitely
1:24:30
thoughtprovoking So like say like people like uh would Stevie Wonder have been as
1:24:37
musically talented if he was not born blind i would say no You know I don't
1:24:42
know But that's again like you know we we can have all these different variables and play these play these
1:24:47
different um games to judge what's what But at the end of the day
1:24:54
you know my opinion is just my opinion on that matter Yeah And um you know if it's something that is helping people
1:25:02
that need help then I'm for it Yeah But if people are already okay and
1:25:08
functional and like can get their way through life just fine and they're doing this thing in addition to the greatness
1:25:14
that God already gave them I'm like against it That's just me So you're against breast implants 100% Okay How
1:25:22
about butt implants you might be an ass man I might be whatever but I'd rather have a natural any one of them A small
1:25:30
I'd rather have a small natural any one of them than a blowed up fake any of them That's just me personally I love
1:25:37
myself a natural woman Yeah me too I'm with you on that So back to what
1:25:42
Mitchell was saying He he said and I quote "Elon Musk is a liar
1:25:48
He's trying to destroy humanity and anybody that ever trusted him they've
1:25:53
been deceived This is the prime example of how evil he is He's actually selling
1:25:59
microchips that go into people's heads acting like he's some damn doctor
1:26:05
Brother that's the mark of the beast Mitchell exclaimed when Bisbine said he wanted a Neuralink chip That chip is a
1:26:13
mark of the beast That is the type of technology that the antichrist is going to put in people When you start getting
1:26:20
these chips in the head they're gonna monitor everything you buy everything you sell Basically it's going to be
1:26:26
communism like the world has never seen I feel like the market of beast is a dollar
1:26:32
Oh capitalism Just Yeah Currency Like when we went outside of just regular
1:26:37
bartering and like just give I'll give you what you need and you give me what I need and we're good when we went outside
1:26:44
of that and we started getting too crazy from bartering to we're gonna have this represent how much more money can I make
1:26:50
off of this same thing Yeah Yeah Yeah Next time Like come on dude Yeah I mean you may have a point there Um
1:26:59
let's uh move on to the next next thing here Um
1:27:04
and this is a pretty famous person um that nobody knows about right uh h has
1:27:12
anybody heard of Stanley Meyer yeah So Stanley Meyer uh he was an
1:27:21
inventor that invented uh technology that I don't I don't remember the exact
1:27:27
quantity but he could drive a car essentially from one side of the country to the other on like 30 gallons of water
1:27:35
or something like this Water like tap water like not nitrogen I mean not um what do you call it
1:27:42
um hydrogen Yeah Okay We're talking water Good old H2O And um so Stanley
1:27:50
Meyer invented this and he was coming to a place that he was getting recognition for it and he was going in a contract
1:27:57
with some people and he was at dinner
1:28:03
signing this contract Yeah And uh he literally grabbed I think he grabbed his
1:28:09
uh stomach or grabbed his chest and said "They poisoned me." Yeah And he got up from the table and fell dead Yeah Yeah
1:28:18
So the big question is and you see on the screen here uh did Stanley Meyer die
1:28:24
because he knew how to turn water into fuel and you know uh obviously in in
1:28:30
that story you just said about how he died he said he was poisoned And you
1:28:37
know looking at you know what he was able to do turning water into fuel
1:28:43
Well this car here was literally water powered Jesus Christ and Lord
1:28:51
water powered Yeah Damn And so why why would anybody Jesus is Lord water
1:28:57
powered why would somebody not want water to take the place of Let's just
1:29:03
cut to it If it wasn't the government that killed Mr Meyers
1:29:08
why have we not seen anything of this technology yet and this was in 1980 what
1:29:15
yes So I I wouldn't even go so far as saying the government I I would say that uh
1:29:22
there's lots of entities that are involved in oil right um and
1:29:29
and oil itself you know there's hu huge
1:29:35
economies that are all based on on this oil So who all right so who all right
1:29:40
these places where these companies that are American right are getting oil from
1:29:47
like we have to like the country has to have um some type of stance over there
1:29:53
like you can't be a citizen I don't care how much money you have you can't just be a citizen and go to Saudi Arabia and
1:30:00
start buying oil No understood Yeah So what I'm trying to say is government's
1:30:06
involved in some way Oh yeah man whether like like like let's not let's not think that there's not people
1:30:12
sitting there We like we know what's happening on the level of like a lobbyist Like there's way higher ups that's getting a lot more money for like
1:30:19
enabling these people these petroleum people uh like uh they're they're like slapping down the environmental people
1:30:26
for them They're doing this favor doing that favor Like yeah they're all in cahoots man Oh yeah it's all connected
1:30:31
for sure So you you're more mechanical than I am Can you uh look at this and
1:30:37
tell me what it does well I can't No I cannot I I I am uh
1:30:44
mechanically inclined very much so but I do not have any knowledge of this type
1:30:49
of technology Um so essentially what I see is that it has all these different
1:30:55
coils a charging choke and then it goes into some kind of like uh piston I don't
1:31:04
understand what the pulsing core is The pulsing core seems to be what's making
1:31:10
it all happen You know like when we were kids and we made those little motors and we wrapped the the copper wire around
1:31:17
the thing and stuff like that with the batteries Yeah But look at the end of the day it's
1:31:22
badass man And it sucks It sucks that that that we do not have this technology
1:31:28
available to us I mean maybe we do Maybe we do
1:31:33
They watered it down Like I know Toyota makes the Marai which is a hydrogen powered vehicle Um and there's some
1:31:40
other ones out there but there's nothing like this Nothing like I mean uh the closest thing to this is in Back to the
1:31:47
Future where you put your old garbage and banana peels and stuff like that into the flux capacitor Into the flux
1:31:54
capacitor Yeah If you don't have a Yeah But if you don't have a flux capacitor So that's what I want Anybody any one of
1:32:00
our listeners has you know a line on a flux capacitor I don't even care Look
1:32:05
I'll take a used flux capacitor I don't care if it's used new any of the above I just want one It don't even have to work
1:32:12
I'll fix it myself Yeah Yeah Just send us the flux capacitor We'll we'll get that moving Word Um so next Um so
1:32:22
I was talking to you the other night and saying how I just started watching the Jamie Fox Netflix show right
1:32:31
and here's Jamie Fox right here And uh so he dropped his Netflix special Um
1:32:39
watching it you know man he was very emotional I would say it wasn't very funny Uh
1:32:46
there was moments that I laughed Um I I do as a whole you know enjoy Jamie Fox's
1:32:54
career and some of the things that he's done Uh he used it as an opportunity to
1:33:00
kind of like talk bad about Diddy Um and and
1:33:07
the day after all this launched he's sitting there at at a restaurant It's
1:33:14
his birthday Mhm and someone throws a glass
1:33:20
and it hits him in the mouth Smacked him in the face with a glass Um you know
1:33:26
kind of a fight starts ensuing where Jamie Fox is the one trying to like level it down Smart Um but in the end he
1:33:35
had to go get stitches where you know he it says that he's fine He's recovering
1:33:41
but he uh in the article it said "Was this Diddy's thugs?" Listen man I don't
1:33:50
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you guys I don't know Jamie Fox I've met him more
1:34:45
than once and uh he was associated with somebody that I
1:34:50
bodyguarded for a very long time And uh
1:34:57
this whole thing that's happening with Diddy right now I all I see is Jamie Fox covering his tracks Oh because um
1:35:08
during the filming of Miami Vice was this time period that I met him and I
1:35:14
was bodyguarding this one guy there and he was friends with him very close with him
1:35:20
And the guy that I worked for wanted to do business with Diddy Okay Jamie and Diddy were like this They
1:35:27
were rocking heavy So all that freakoff party stuff all that stuff is real
1:35:33
of the Diddy did I've never been to one but I know people personally like I can
1:35:39
call right now that have been in those parties and they've told me about those things that they saw in those parties
1:35:45
and a lot of those things are the things that are being said Really yeah And uh
1:35:51
Jamie Fox was one of those people that was very tied up in that And if he
1:35:57
wasn't you may ask how would he have a comparison to be able to tell Diddy
1:36:03
something like "I could throw a better party for $400 than you can for a
1:36:08
million." Unless you I saw that on the Rogan show He literally Unless you're familiar though You got to be familiar
1:36:14
with what it means to throw a million dollar party basically No No
1:36:20
What he's trying to say is I can accomplish the same things in a party that takes you a million for 400 bucks
1:36:27
and uh and some fried chicken He said I remember he's like so sodas fried
1:36:33
chicken couple bottles of alcohol 400 bucks we're good you know there's this domino effect of things uh with with
1:36:39
Diddy uh starting with the the SRA
1:36:45
lawsuit that got smacked down because of the exposure of the Cassie Ventura
1:36:53
settlement and video And um Jamie Fox is trying to cover his tail
1:37:00
because there's going to be some things that come out Another name that is gonna come out
1:37:08
Poor guy right now because what he's going through but Bruce Willis is a very good close friend of Diddy that I got to Oh really yeah I got to see them
1:37:14
together a lot You know before we go down that road you just said that Jamie
1:37:21
Fox is really tied up right and my comment to you after I watched the
1:37:26
Netflix Jamie Fox thing was he looked
1:37:33
guilty He looked like someone that was so thankful Jamie Fox Jamie Fox invited
1:37:44
the guy that I used to work for to one of those Diddy parties Okay Wow We already you know I'm I'm you
1:37:52
know at the time I was uh one of the top independent bodyguards that there was in the country Yeah And I was in Miami and
1:37:59
the guy that I worked for was from the Caribbean And if and if nobody knows
1:38:04
about this in the Caribbean most of the people are very homophobic in the Caribbean They believe that homosexuality did not exist in the
1:38:12
Caribbean until colonization came to the Caribbean That's what they believe And it's a very interesting theory But
1:38:17
anyway we knew of this and um
1:38:24
he got the invite and he was like "There's no way that I'm going to one of
1:38:31
those parties." Yeah because he already knew what they were about It sounds like Yeah dude It sounds like everybody kind
1:38:37
of knew what they were A lot of people knew what they were about And um there's a lot of stuff more stuff that we we'll
1:38:43
talk about at a later time about Diddy and about the impact that he had on a
1:38:48
lot of people that you guys are not even hearing about that nobody even like is acknowledging exist Yeah So let let me
1:38:55
just kind of sum this up a little bit for our viewers and for myself right it sounds like Nathan like you have some uh
1:39:03
personal experiences based on your work that you were around
1:39:10
Diddy you know you just said Jamie Fox I I know of JLo right and and and a bunch
1:39:17
of these people that were in that circle right and and it sounds like it sounds
1:39:23
like to me like this may be like the first time that you're kind of going a little bit I'm tired of the lies I'm
1:39:31
tired of the lies man I'm tired of watching this show I'm tired of these pictures being
1:39:37
painted and the the illusions that that these people have that that people think
1:39:44
so highly of these people when in actuality they're they're just like us
1:39:49
and not the best of us Oh and um yeah it sounds like you got some receipts Uh
1:39:56
yeah Yeah I have something that I brought today that I would like to share with the people to show them that that
1:40:04
you're real Not only am I real but this is not this is not just a podcast Yeah That you know this is our second time
1:40:11
recording Yeah And that we're warming up We're learning We're getting into the swing of things But also um we're going
1:40:18
to start talking about this stuff And we're going to show you guys some stuff And know that like um we would like to
1:40:24
talk about this Look I'm dying to talk about this stuff I've been waiting so long to talk about this stuff and a lot
1:40:30
more than this but I need the help of the people We need some We need some subscribers a
1:40:36
little bit more We need to get to a certain place where I feel like that there's going to be some ears hearing
1:40:42
and some eyes seeing so I don't feel like I'm just talking to my homeboy in front of a camera Yeah But if you would
1:40:48
like uh here's the newspaper article from the source Yeah A very credible
1:40:55
source by the way Yeah So this was in January 14th in 2004
1:41:02
Um from Talk of Our Town the Miami Herald a Jennifer Lopez bodyguard is
1:41:09
under investigation for robbery after allegedly grabbing the memory card from
1:41:15
the camera of a South Beach nightclub patron He's suspected of taking JLo's
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photo JLo is not camera shy She seems uh
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seems she was spotted chatting with exbow Shaun P Diddy Combmes Both Lopez
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33 and Combmes 34 have homes in Miami Beach Lopez in is engaged to actor Ben
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Affleck 31 years old happened at 4:50 a.m Monday at Opium Gardens Club Prey
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136 Collins Avenue when a member of Lopez's entourage spotted spotted a
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flash go off The security guards walked over to the table where Jacqueline Thomas Bishop celebrated her 24th
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birthday with boyfriend Pavl Vakovich 22
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From the Miami police report the bodyguard asked if they had photographed Miss Lopez They stated no The bodyguard
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then snatched Bishop's camera from her hands Bodyguard then removed the memory
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card from the digital camera He kept the chip and threw the camera back Sergeant
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Alex Kurulo interviewed bodyguard Nathan Butts by Oh that's you by phone who
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acknowledged possession of the memory card but refused to return it So this
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was you So you were you JLo's bodyguard
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Whoa Um there's there's another one that that shows the similar stuff This new
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story from Miami Channel 7 tells Jacquellyn Thomas Bishop who was
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celebrating her 24th birthday at an expensive Miami night spot She and her boyfriend were taking snaps of one
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another when they were approached by a bodyguard of Jennifer Lopez who was also at the same club that night He snatched
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away their digital camera yanked the memory card and refused to return it claiming that Miss Lopez owns
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photographs of Miss Lopez and apparently all photographs near Miss Lopez The
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bodyguard Nathan Butts has still not returned the
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memory card in the this report or this one which does not say was does say
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authorities are charging JLo's bodyguard with a thirdderee robbery Did he
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actually get charged was the memory card of Jacqueline Bishop's vacation returned
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whoa bro So the So the officer called you Uhhuh
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When this was 4:50 at night it say a.m Yeah In the morning In the morning 4:50
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in the morning So then what happened is all that true
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i snatched a camera Okay But the picture that's being painted and the story is
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not like that That's not how it happened Oh At all similar but not there the details are
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not there and um there's a lot more to it There's a lot more to that situation in that time
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period There was a lot more stuff happening that um I will get into at a later date
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but we going to talk about this stuff Yeah Yeah So so what I'm gathering Nate I I could just tell your your body
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posture I feel your energy I feel that this is like kind of um it's like
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in an essence like poking at you These people these people did me bad after this man They did me dirty Yeah They did
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they did me nasty It's like you're getting worked up And I never I'd never have been treated like they treated me I
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was an independent bodyguard for 10 years I never had to look for a job in 10 years All word of mouth Yeah
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Everybody that I ever worked for like you know when I was young I got in trouble Every single person I worked for I shared with them my background and I
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gave them the chance to opt out Yeah Ne No one ever did Yeah When this happened
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they they did me dirty Wow Um so for our listeners what I'd say is this is proof
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these are receipts that Nathan here was in fact JLo's
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bodyguard at that time Mhm It also proves to you that he is connected
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through this celebrity community around JLo Diddy Jamie Fox all these types of
1:46:04
people Yeah One of my best friends was Diddy's uh so when Diddy first moved to Miami he didn't have nobody in Miami He
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only had one man and that was one of my best friends Wow That there was three of
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us One of them is known for being with Diddy and he's known for a lot of other
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street stuff too The other one is currently doing 27 years in uh in prison
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for human trafficking Oh whoa This was us though This was our group though Whoa
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Yeah And um Yeah He He's actually agreed to come on
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as a guest as well Whoa Um Yeah he's actually agreed to come on That's going to be good It's going to be big We could
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talk about that But you know what I'm trying to uh just make sure we solidify
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for our listeners is that there's going to be some content that comes out that you will not see this anywhere else but
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here In fact you will probably see it other places but you'll see it here
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first real live You'll never hear the story told
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from this perspective And it's not the only one There's a lot There's a lot Because again I did this for 10 years
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and all of my clients were somebody's like all known people some unknown
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people that had a lot money more money than all of those known people So it's going to get very interesting And um
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yeah Yeah Right now I'm going to get up and go to the restroom cuz I'm about to pee on myself Well you know just to uh
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sign off here I want to say thank you to Nathan for being vulnerable enough to
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share some of his past that it it definitely seems that this is uh
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sparking something in him that there is there's emotional stuff related to this
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I could tell it's going to be a serious conversations as we continue going down
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this road and I and I hope for our listeners that you see value in the fact
1:48:06
that he's finally coming out to talk about this and which is one of the most
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talked about subjects where nobody's seen the perspective of the person who
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actually was responsible for keeping their security
1:48:22
right um so thanks again for watching Appreciate you And you know we'll check
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check back at you next time Damn