Episode #9 - Finding Realness in a Digital World

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oh it's it's like you felt it through your spirit through your spine
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we're all good that's generational trauma that be happening to black kids when they hear that sound when they hear
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that snap snap and that's not just black kids let's save that for the episode
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give it a clap it is generational for black they say wise men speak because they have something to say yeah they
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also say fools speak because they have to say something well here we are yeah
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you Yeah we have to forget that one well well relax
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all right Jr here we go who else is it it's not generational for anybody else nobody got whipped are you kidding me
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all right we're Who got whipped who got whipped back episode nobody else got whipped here we go we're starting with
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the Fury crazy talking about getting smack as kids
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what's going on y'all man we're back we're back it's good it's great to be here it is great to be back um talking
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about that smacking I mean I don't know in my youth there used to be paddles on
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my grandfather's wall these paddles that are on the wall
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were signed by all these kids yeah so these He was a principal
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at Lositos Elementary School right right down there in South San
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Francisco and one of the things that he used to do when the kids would you know
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get in trouble is he used to spank them he used to have them pick the
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paddle that they he had small medium and large and uh believe it or not most of
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the people picked the small one which is actually the one that hurt the most and
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then he made them sign it and date it yeah he would so go to jail now um how
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times have changed right like or just imagine just being a parent in today's
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day and age being okay with somebody else whipping your kid for example like anybody like there's no way in the world
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that would stand like you like you you be ready to go to jail for this oh yeah you know what I mean um yeah to fight
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for your kid not getting spanked by someone else yeah a lot of a lot of my friends I got some uh some older friends
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uh from uh New Jersey and New York some older Italian buddies of mine and they always put emphasis on how much they
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despise these certain people because they were the ones that were uh the
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priests and uh and the nuns when they went to Catholic school and um yeah I know I know up in there they they dealt
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with a lot of paddling you know they used to break kids' fingers with rulers and all that wildness oh yeah that was a
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thing rulers on your hands yeah and um I I you know there's no you I I think they
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found out that that didn't that wasn't something that was helpful you know what I mean it might have scared some people into not doing stuff if that's what you
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might think help is okay cool but I don't I don't think that's helpful yeah i know for me I have never spanked my
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daughter yeah i I spanked my kid once when he was two and he just looked at me and was like "No."
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And after that I was like I was like "All right bro no it is." like that was that you know
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um yeah man there's no there's no space for that in this day and age and a lot of like uh older people will be like
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"That's the problem like they ain't whooping these kids." Like yeah like you going to whoop kids into like trauma
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like whoop kids into like not wanting to like do anything because they're scared they just have this innate scared
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feeling within them so they're like skipping on all types of life's experiences because of it their communication's effed up because of it
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can't talk through stuff all type of stuff like that's not going to cut it yeah i don't think putting fear in people is the right way to motivate them
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no no no no it's a uh it's a it's an abuse of it's a form of an abuse of
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power like you know that many people find themselves in in many different types of relationships in which they
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come to a point that they can no longer effectively communicate and it's like
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I'm you don't get it or you're not doing what I want or whatever the case is and
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um you know it it's basically an impass and instead of that person understanding
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it's an impass they resort to what they I think is the next best thing and that's some some some type of abuse
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right mhm so as far as
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America's culture right spanking seems to be a part of America's culture back
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then yeah but if you look at it like like I don't I don't I don't see how it wouldn't be when you know America was
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founded upon what it was founded upon like literally like physically taken away from people like you know people
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like being unalived in mass mass quantities uh children being uh forced
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to assimilate to what was quote unquote then the new American way and and all this stuff and you know that them
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getting beaten like everybody every that's how that's how America I'm sorry to say this but that's how America as a
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whole resolves its issues is like like even as as a as a as a country like when
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we come to a place that we have a disagreement with somebody and they it doesn't it doesn't there's an impass and
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doesn't quite go our way guess what we ready to spank something that's what it is uh I don't like this
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way of being um this is this is not something that I I choose to deploy yeah
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but you have no like you and I we're we're just we're just very very small portions and it we're like cells within
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a body in America like we we really don't have much of an influence unless we're ready to crash out and become a
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martyr and then somebody might say your name a few more times over history but eventually you'll be forgotten too yeah
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yeah so today we're going to dive in a little deeper on
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the traditions of America and kind of the culture shock that's happening uh and
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we're going to dig in deep into the question what even is American anymore
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what's crazy is is it took a polarizing figure to create a more visible
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political division are you talking about Donald Trump i am and with that more visible political division now it's like
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"Oh damn you mean there's two Americas?" Uh yeah there's a whole bunch of us that
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have already known that there's two Americas you know what I mean and um it's it's as simple as going back to the
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days of uh the Civil War right one side of the country wanted slavery one side did not one side won the other side
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lost does everybody's feelings change with that no some people still stay the
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same nobody goes to jail hey some people think it's wrong it's a difference of opinion it's the fact of the matter and
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like that's that's the that's the divide in our country it still has some to do with race it has some to do with other
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things but hey it's there it's been there and like hey for whatever reason
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for whatever figure or whatever reason it brought it out that other people are starting to be enlightened and more
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aware about it i'm glad cuz it like I'm I'm I'm tired of being one of the only people that like when I talk to people
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and I talk about the true Americas people are like "What are you talking are you serious?" It's like h like I'm the only person that sees it
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this way or like I'm like some some type of conspiracy theor
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dog it been like this out here and and in many different in many different It's an age-old thing it's like the the king
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uh in his castle on top of the hill looking down at all the people that are
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in his kingdom right and knowing that if he gets the people to
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go back and forth with each other and fight each other then it takes the focus
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away from being on him and what he's taking from them or what he's holding
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over from them right yes and so I believe in in our culture you know way
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back when when they created the two-party system Yeah they created it to
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have two sides to get the two sides going at each other and to divide right
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this division is what allows control to be had because these two sides are going
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at it so much that you end up uh falling into the bucket right you're you're in
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you're in the bucket of the right side or the left side right and that means that you're opposite of the other and
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that means that you you get around those people you get into um the what do they
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call it um when you're in the the like bubble you know and and you hear just
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those thoughts and you you form your own biases based on what you already believe
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and then you only hear those things and anything that's outside of that you try to uh say that that's wrong uh but it is
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a difference of opinion agreed you know so coming in today you know some of
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these talking points to start on like um America was built on like when I was
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young I used to think of it and and it was like you know baseball was America's
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pastime right definitely uh eating hot dogs was a thing apple pie muscle cars
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hamburgers hot dogs barbecues right barbecues that's American yeah um you
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brought up the other day being powerful right yeah the the symb like America is
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a symbol of power you know whether you agree with it and where it lines up or not it's a symbol of power recognized
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all around the world as you know as far as I know the superpower maybe that's just what they tell us but um as far as
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I know that's what it is you know yeah and in fact you know I'm in marketing and branding and one of the things that
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was brought up in one of our our gettogethers was how the biggest brand
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in the world the most well-known brand in the whole world is the American flag
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[Music] right this is branded all over the place it's over there
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uh you see flags on shirts you see flags on hats you see flags all over the place
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and and this American flag with the the red and blue stripe showing that the two
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sides right and then the stars which are representative of the 50 states right
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although there's a bunch of other what do they call them colonies yes uh that
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that aren't represented in colonies common wells stuff like that but see
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that's a part of it like I it might just start there the fandom
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okay like I feel like that's one thing that America suffers from is like fandom
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because we have like definitely again the mob mentality where one person runs
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and everybody runs and then tries to find out later why they're running oh yeah you know the uh the uh the uh thing
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where uh a good portion of the population if you send them a candy bar you uh they got your you got their vote
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oh yeah you know what I mean send them send them something and um so with that being said like like if you you know if
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if you feel patriotic like you know uh like you want you're a proud American and you want to represent your country
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cool we're in America we all know that you know what I mean if that's what you're on cool but my thing is when it
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comes to these political parties again the blind following of a political party just because that's what you're
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affiliated with is though they can do no wrong that's where we we have always fallen short in America and that's how
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we end up decades and decades down the road with all types of problems that have been the same problems that either
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have not been tried to fix or tried to fix the same way over and over again as though that is going to do something and
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um yeah like again like for me uh who I
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vote for it's my business even my political party in itself it's my business when I go vote I'm in the booth
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by myself nobody knows what happens when I uh after I leave there and I feel the
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same way about religion as well and that's that's something that you
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know I think we got to be we got to be a little more careful with and a little bit more mindful of and a little bit
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more conscious and like you know of of other people's stuff like why why do like why does that have to be on your
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t-shirt like why do we have to put that on the forefront like why do we have to like do that right like we don't
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introduce ourselves in that way to people yeah i think with social media
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and the way that it is such a polarizing thing with the different parties uh the
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different agendas that are out there people are putting this front and center because they're they're looking at it
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and saying "I must identify with something and I'm forced to make a decision on what I identify as and I
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must put it out there and let everybody know that this is how I identify so that
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I can sway others to come and uh see it my way that's what it is and see for me
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it's more of um anybody that's a politician that has
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something to do with uh something that needs to get done that that serves my community like whatever side on uh of
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the fence they're on like they're going like I would like to hold them accountable like it's like let's hold them all accountable like on both sides
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of the fence and like like let's let's put down the uh this person's this party
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so they can do no wrong like no dude it doesn't matter if you identify with that party if they're effing up they're
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effing up and call them on it yeah yeah that I I love that sentiment i think
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that's a sentiment that that we all get to have it comes with some uh uh like we
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spoke about on our last episode some critical thinking right and removing
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some of the biases that that we hold ourselves and not allowing those to
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affect our judgment and being able to call out things that are just not okay
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morally ethically uh having integrity uh those kind of things right on real quick
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off topic I just uh I'd like to give a shout out to somebody man i'd like to give a shout out to all my people over
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appreciate you guys in the Philippines we love y'all right on yeah right on yeah appreciate that so as we continue
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down this road we're we're talking about how do you know what globalism is
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yeah so globalism is the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy
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on a global basis so economic and foreign policy based on a global basis and doing
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the planning and operation of it right so when when we're considering the
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question what does American even mean in
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2025 this is something that we got to take into consideration yeah the um
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globalism if you even say that word what what do you think of when when you hear
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globalism you hear you think of the world right so you got to wonder uh if this is all
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one agenda who wants this and who who benefits from it
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that's the question that comes through my mind but I don't know the answer well I could tell you I you have an opinion
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is what I understand very strong one very very good but um with that I'm not
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going to get deep into but what I will get into
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is we cannot barely um like do great as
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a country right and many uh many states
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within that country they have independence and many of them cannot do well on their own right
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so what makes anyone think that we can get it all together and all everyone be together and
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everyone do the same thing and it be right yeah everybody's different every country has different people what I'm
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trying to say is though is they can't like like people can't get it together on a small
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level like what do you think globalism as a whole is going to do if if something like that is truly established
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like it's already it's already in uh in the financial space it's already in certain spaces globalism already is is
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in very strong in existence but as a whole like they know the people going to fight that you know what I mean
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so So what is American h might that might all depend on who you
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ask well the term American when you when when you look it
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up it's either a native or a citizen of
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America or relating to a characteristic of the United States or
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its inhabitants so with that being
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said like does everybody in America feel like an American
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ah that's kind of crazy because I see in America I've seen all
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these different flags you know but there are also many disenfranchised groups
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though from America within America that do not feel accepted by America that's where Yeah and and they're they're going
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out with their home country's flag in America but they may be Americans
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and they're definitely uh doing this in America that's a pride it's a pride thing you know yeah so it just seems
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kind of weird right we we say uh what's it feel like to be an American right and
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for me I mean I grew up here i'm a uh I consider myself a Native American
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i'm a native born American here in in America right and and a Californian
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right and for me that that's all I've ever known was to be what I call an American
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so everything I do is from the what I think an American perspective now it
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might be different than someone else that thinks I'm American and I have the same uh upbringing growing up here in
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America born in America but they look at things differently right um a thing that
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comes to my mind is like things have changed no longer is just baseball hot
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dogs and apple pie muscle cars considered American right now it's like
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a whole new experience it's Tik Tok trends Uber
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Eats Kanye West NFTTS soccer moms doing
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mukbangs like to go back to what you're saying about like being an American like myself like I accept being an American
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you know i love being an American and um if somebody came over here like I'd be
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willing to die for America right but just because of all of those things
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it does not dismiss like it is and as far as I know the
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greatest country in the world as far as I know and you know
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but there's displeasure that people have with things even if they're American you
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know what I mean i mean I could see that a lot of people nowadays are frustrated
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with America and how it's it's been evolving i definitely see that happening
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all over the place uh even myself I have frustrations with society and what we
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accept and what's okay in our world yeah even though we have laws
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uh how they are enforced and what actually happens is a totally different
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experience um and and it's definitely I think there's a lot of people that are
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that are frustrated with this right now i think it's a it's becoming more and more where people are divided frustrated
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and literally on every side everybody's frustrated and I think in my head the only way that that
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that happens is if it's a it's an overall plan you know why else would everybody be so
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disenfranchised so against each other unless it's the king on top of the castle that is trying to make everybody
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else focused on each other and hating each other and fighting with each other instead of looking at what the king's
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doing m and so I don't know what oligarchs or overall control factors
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that we have which you know could be big corporations or you know these uh
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wealthy wealthy uh family heritages that
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funded banks and you know the whole thing I don't know if they're on top of
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it and it seems like there's an aspect of unknown phone that is there that is
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it seems like it's starting to come out in the open and people are starting to talk about it yeah what's interesting is how tech has enabled uh some people to
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make astronomical amounts of money that are not connected to these families you know like so these these
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these power families that you know have been over here in America since day one
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like uh you know controlling all of the commodities and the railroads and you
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know uh oil all these different that's that falls under commodities yeah I know yeah like it's it's a trip how you know
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you got a couple people like a Gates a Elon a this guy or that guy who are not
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you know who does who doesn't necessarily fall under that category but they got the power you know they got
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they got that shift in the paradigm and that's why a lot of those people don't like those guys too you know what I mean
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because they talk about some stuff that they don't want that they don't want everyone else to know that benefits them
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yeah so let let's dig in on some specific examples of how American
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identity has been shifting let's dig in on that
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american identity huh what do you have in mind well let let's just start here so we we
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spoke about baseball being America's pastime right
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um now so so that's like old school America baseball is America's pastime
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right well in 2025 in America NBA is
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it's global this is not just an American thing this is global nba is global and
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the faces of the NBA the faces of the league are actually international
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players in the NBA now yeah yeah yeah so Giannis right uh he's he he's from uh
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Greece so even go to go even back before that like Yeah when we grew up it was
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like uh it had it had come into the time where like most of the uh it was it was
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just mostly American right it was it was black and it was white when it first started the NBA was it was white yeah
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and then and then they started dropping the raisins into the rice bowl and they were like "Yo the raisins into the rice
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bowl." Yo they were like "Yo this is real we're going to keep dropping them in." And um you know here we are today
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like well it took it to the next level cuz uh people started dunking yeah yeah
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and it got exciting i mean let's face it i mean you got your Larry Birds you got your white chocolates you got your
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couple guys that you know really laid it down but you know I mean the sport kind of went with black i heard you say white
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chocolate and I I just think of Jason Williams man that's white chocolate that's white chocolate that's white
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chocolate and he's And he's he's a podcaster too yeah but he's as a baller
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come on bro was raw as raw as raw as anybody else was yeah so yeah he was
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shout out White Chocolate man yeah so but back to some of these uh how it's
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global now you know uh Luca uh he he's he's probably the best player in the NBA
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now right um and and he's from Slovenia of all places that's crazy all these
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kids know is international basketball now when they watch the NBA that's all they know have you seen Wendy oh yeah
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he's built like you are man nah he ain't that guy is He's even taller he's way up
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there he's even skinnier yeah he's way ass he's more limber if you can imagine he's built different
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interesting young man though yeah but he's from France right uh and and so
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we're really seeing that there's a a global aspect of the NBA and then when they come into the Olympics it's like
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all these then they go play for their home country represent yeah they come here to make money but then But are they
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still from where they from exactly right uh so old school America NFL right it
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the NFL used to mean rough it It used to be a blue collar kind of sport right a
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bluecollar kind of feeling when we grew up uh baseball and uh football
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professionally like everybody was uh on steroids and narcotics so it just made
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for like another level of entertainment like you know what I mean like these guys were out there like bro they were
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going ham like remember uh you remember Lyall Al do you remember Lzo he played
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for Oakland Raiders he was an absolute killer he was the most feared man in the NFL i try to avoid the the Raiders at
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all costs oh man why you starting this stuff up here man you see what I'm saying knowing all these friends we got that are Raider fans i know i I've been
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to Raiders game in fact why you doing this bro one of the one of my most favorite games I ever went to was a
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Raiders game when my my buddy rest in peace Johnny Mack
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goes "You're coming with me to the Raiders game." That's crazy and you must dress up cuz that's what we do and he
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had me dress up with face paint the whole thing cuz everybody that's what we did and I I got to say it was probably
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the most enjoyable football game I've ever been to yeah they got their butt kicked but
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it was a lot of fun what's crazy is RIP Johnny Mack i got a I got a
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brother named Johnny Mack that died too oh really yeah bro when you said RIP Johnny Mack I was like I was like he
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knows Johnny Mack how you know Johnny Mack different Johnny Mack obviously maybe that's a wild one but um yeah man
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sports sports has has taken quite a turn since we were young well the NFL shifted into
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entertainment and pop culture fusion right essentially the Taylor Swift
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effect right i mean NFL saw 400,000 plus female fans in the last
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couple years from Taylor Swift dating uh Travis Kelce
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i wonder what that's Is that legit though dude i don't know bro i I don't
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know bro like the Swifties are a pretty big force man i know they are they're a
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pretty big force but I just question their the legitimacy of their fandom of football brother that's all well okay so
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let's go to the MLB right yeah but hold on before that uh what I don't like
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though is how they be letting these these dudes in the NBA like
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uh come to the games dressing however they want you know it was the it was like it was like a Yeah you used to have
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to be suited and booted to go in there you had before that in the 90s it was like it wasn't like that
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they they they decided to do that cuz these guys was getting too off the chain you know
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what I mean yeah like Dennis Rodman pulling up you know what I'm saying big fur big hat uhuh you know doing his
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thing um you know that's not a Hey that how do they what is it that is not a
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representation he was flamboyant he was off the chain right and um so now you
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got these guys pulling up uh they didn't I don't know bro they're
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not kilts they look like the skirts that the girls be wearing when they play tennis they be wearing all type of stuff
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that they pull up you haven't seen that man bro you haven't seen Bro LeBron wore a skirt bro i try not to look at LeBron
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i'm just saying i'm just I'm just saying like like these guys are like dressing like real different like real outside of
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the box with it like this is a Met Gala on the way to like like bro this is your game bro tighten up bro like what you
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guys are they doing it for attention like why why are they doing I think they think I think they think that they're
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fashioning since it's hot like you know what I mean like this is what's hot to them so do they get more likes cuz they
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did it bro I don't do they get more attention on their to be honest with you I'm not following and not one of them so
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I couldn't tell you if if that benefits him at all and maybe if maybe if uh somebody got suited and booted and like
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like you know conducted themselves uh uh with parliamentary procedure I might
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follow one of them i don't know so in the MLB local heroes and
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American pride was a thing right mhm now the highest paid player is Otani right
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yeah show Otan Otani yeah and and he's from Japan right $700 million contract
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we had to see this coming oh yeah i mean he's legit i'm just saying just with with baseball in general in Japan like
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Japan turned up on baseball bro and Oh yeah like y'all don't forget Hideon Nommo oh I remember him he the way he
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pitched and he turned you know his whole back to the It was insane that's what I'm saying don't forget Hideo that's
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when it started yep so food right mom and pop diners that
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was like the heartbeat of America right you go to mom and pop diners and all this stuff
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yeah i still think uh depending on where you are in the country it's still it
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still might be though uh there's they're still very big in uh in Florida you know
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there's still many diners in Florida uh all throughout middle America through the South you know um I think probably
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did you just like out here we probably strayed away from it a little bit
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because well it's the culture there's no doubt is is independent locallyowned
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privately owned places to go eat so that it's it's changed
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from those mom and pop diners to farmtotable restaurants yes you see what
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I mean yeah that's it right and to like an influencerbased Ghost Kitchen or Door
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Dash brand yeah but the thing is it's it's kind of sad in a way like you got
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some of these guys that are um guys and gals that are that are um food critics
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there you go that that are holding people hostage that will make or break you in this day and age and like that
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like their opinion might not really be be what it is you know what I mean
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instagrammable food pictures and videos based on those critics that have a huge
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following i forget what the dude's name was this this kid he's a he's he's a black kid like he's pro I say kid he's
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probably like 30 but um in his 20s 30 he uh he's very big in the food in the food
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game and he went to he went to San Francisco to go review some spots uhhuh
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and like I think he was like going into the first place that he went to or something i forgot where he went to but
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wherever he went to he came outside and they bipped him and took everything what do you mean bipped him oh bro you were
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from the Bay Area oh man now I have an idea but it's it's for our listeners man bing bing all right y'all y'all go on
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YouTube and look up bipping b I P I N G it's it's it's like something that started in San Francisco they say a car
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gets bipped in San Francisco every uh 15 seconds so a
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bip bipping is when somebody walks up to a car window and smashes the car window and removes everything from the car and
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bipping is something that is is in in essence like become like a full-time career for people cuz you got fences
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that buy all type of stuff so you got kids that'll like you know be out there
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bipping trying to steal laptops you got other people that's following people from the airport to see if they stop
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somewhere before they go to their hotel to take all their everything like hey look if you come to San
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Francisco like yeah put your stuff away first don't leave no bags in the car like that's real square stuff anyway if
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you got any kind of street smarts you don't leave no bag in the car well I've seen people in San Francisco now they just leave their doors unlocked windows
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down windows down signs signs on the window stating nothing in here there's nothing in here please do not break my
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window all that yeah so yeah uh yeah so the kid got bipped and he uh he went
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hard on on the bay after that he was like "Yo I'm never going out there to the bay i would never recommend nobody to go out there to the bay." Like yeah
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he butchered the bay bro but he should have he should in my opinion bro you like when you go somewhere bro like you
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gota you got to kind of have an idea where you're at like like look Chicago
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right you're not going to just knowing Chicago is Shyra you're going to want to know where in Chicago you're going to
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right i'm not going to Shyrack am I right i'm not going to go to a war zone am I shyrack oh my What you see look and
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the thing is hey I'm sorry you guys i'm sorry for my brother that's what's crazy you guys know everything what I'm
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talking about right now so Shyrack that's a whole another thing that that's that the whole world knows Shyrack
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shyrack was made a coin the to the coin was termed by DJ academics shyrack like
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literally is a war zone like that stuff I be telling you about that drilling music where these kids are rapping about
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killing each other and like up in the score on all that that is all real life
36:34
in those communities out there that's what I'm telling you so when that kid came out to the city see here's what you
36:40
know you're a good dude and you grew up around some people that weren't so good
36:45
though but you was cool with everybody but you know San Francisco right when everybody else hears San Francisco what
36:52
they think is not what you know about San Francisco you know where not to go in the city though oh that's for sure
36:57
ain't that right and that's what I'm trying to tell you when you go somewhere you kind of got to Well it doesn't say
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that on Google Maps it doesn't say I can't I shouldn't go to this spot it doesn't say on ways
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like okay avoid these san Francisco san Francisco always being one of the top three tourist destinations in the world
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right like uh tourism being a big part of its income you're not going to see
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those things right you you going to see them on local news but you think them other people they don't they don't be
37:31
seeing now now people are seeing they got to keep the money coming in now people are seeing it on Tik Tok though tik Tok is Tik Tok will teach you some
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stuff yeah uh so the American dream remember the American dream for
37:45
for years it was like own your house with a white dog two kids family a local job right
37:53
it's the American dream right uh now remote
37:59
work digital nomads kids want to be YouTube uh podcasters right i was going
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through something yesterday because I was talking to this lady that I know she's a parent
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um and she was like "Yeah I'm just trying to find a job." And I was like in
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my head I was like "Damn we're in the Bay Area." I was like "There's hella jobs right?" And I was sitting there
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listening to her like I was trying not to say that you know what I'm saying i
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wanted to be like "Yeah but there's hella jobs." But she was like "Yeah they don't want to hire anybody remote."
38:35
And that's when I was like "Oh oh." Because you don't want an actual job where you have to show up every day you
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want to work from home so it's like "Hey hey the pandemic was great for a lot of
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people you know what I mean and a lot of businesses as well you know uh with no
38:52
cost of overhead you know all these things but at this point in time when you got people that uh that have uh 3
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hours of work that are charging you eight for it and you can't prove it look we need you back in the office oh yeah
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we need you back in the office we need that visibility we need that transparency we need to count We need to count everything we need to make sure
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Yeah that's what's going on right now yeah so how about back in the day
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America was like Ford and Chevy right
39:23
we're we're all about cars and all this stuff right that was like a big thing like I remember you know my first car
39:30
was a 66 Nova Super Sport right and and then I went down the Mustang roads and
39:37
got the whole 5.0's and the salines and the Cobras and these things right and
39:43
now what you see it's Tesla Rivian Cyber
39:48
Trucks right i haven't been I haven't been out in a while like I haven't been
39:54
like out of state for a minute and like see if it's the same yeah i the last
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time I was out and about I was in like Montana there was a few Teslas but like I'm really feeling like we're like o
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like again in California yeah we're o we're oed on Teslas out here that so many bro in my community here in
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California is like you go around there's there's people with two three Teslas in front of their houses like Yeah that's
40:16
the that's the that's the me too the car that's the me too like I mean everybody
40:21
got that me too like yeah the Tesla's the me too car gotcha but you know I can't I cannot
40:29
I cannot think like first I'll never buy look I've had nine I've had nine Fox bodies like Mustangs right i'll never
40:36
buy another Ford again i love Mustangs but I cannot hear
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the name Ford without thinking about about uh Henry Ford being a Nazi but anyway
40:48
after that se segment that we did and all this I mean bro Henry Ford was a Nazi bro he financed Hitler like I'm
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going to keep saying it every time i'm going to remind you guys that Henry Ford financed Hitler and that he authored a
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anti-Semitic book called The International Jew check it out real yeah
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it It's funny how we're learning now i guess it ain't funny but how we're
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learning now the stuff that we learned back then that we built what we knew
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on and now we're learning what we learned was actually from a place that
41:27
is not okay in our minds nowadays yeah but we got the winner's history though
41:32
so it's good yeah that's how it works right whoever whoever wins gets to write writes the
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story the story yeah so back in the day it used to be Blockbuster Friday nights
41:44
you remember going to Blockbuster and you go around the I remember Blockbuster and Hollywood Video oh Hollywood Video
41:51
too you remember Hollywood Video yeah heck yeah so look let's go down this
41:56
this this rabbit hole so when we were young they had these things they was
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about this big they were black you put them inside this big box and you
42:09
push play they were called VHS VHS tapes man they were like they were huge bro
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like and like most people needed like if you had a if you had a big uh VHS collection you probably needed a room oh
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yeah cuz they were just huge and then uh then we you know we went to DVDs uhhuh
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like it took a long time like to get to DVDs and we got so DVDs for those of
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youngsters who ain't never seen one cds that that play video right uhhuh and um
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Yeah but now we're on MP3s now we're on just streaming now bro we We're not No
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no you don't need a device now you've got a smart TV your TV does it all yeah oh yeah for sure it's crazy man so So
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how about how about religion right back in the day it used to be you know
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everybody went to church they wore their Sunday best right i'm noticing a pattern with these topics within this is that
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everything is like like the the the religion thing that that nobody's going to church that's another thing that that
43:15
was greatly impacted by the pandemic like people was like "Yo y'all y'all wasn't really trying to fight this."
43:21
Like for those of us that wanted to go to church because we were scared to death and like we needed faith because
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we don't we don't have it like we don't have the spiritual relationship like you know some other people do we needed to
43:32
go tap in and y'all wasn't fighting your f our first amendment right uh to worship for us we ain't going back to
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church well they just do it from home now a lot of people did some some a lot some
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people gave it up some people was just like I can't believe this like that that made some people lose faith oh yeah
43:51
because some people believe in the church yeah people became spiritual but not religious some if they were lucky if
43:58
they were blessed enough to do that that's serious stuff man so weekly church attendance became the lowest in
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American history but Co-Star an astrology app has
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20 million users it's crazy that's very interesting but religion is
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the same i hold the religion in the same place as the politics you know like on
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the inside you know what I mean like Yeah no need to introduce myself as a
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Christian or a Muslim or anything else just give you my name and tell you it's nice to meet you yeah you know what I
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mean totally totally because when you when you when you're so outside with like a with religion or politics it's
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just like it's so off-putting even if you are the same thing if you are like a person that's like a sensible
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person like yeah you'll be like "Dude what are you doing bro?" Yeah why you shoving this on me why you pushing this
44:53
i believe in the same thing you do but why like why are you doing this why Why are we having this conversation just be
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in the moment the crazy thing is the disconnect for those people that don't understand that that's the effect that they may or may not be having on
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somebody right it's just like it's either a lack of consideration or they just don't give a f it's like "Yo you
45:11
want like campaign's over?" Well I believe they think they're doing the right thing yeah but there's no campaign
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there what I'm saying is there's no like there's no campaigning like what's the what is the what is the uh what is the
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end result with this you think you're going to convert some people or something yeah that's the whole thing
45:30
bro people just going to think what they bunch of religions are based on spreading the word right so So based on
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spreading the word it's it's your job to go out and spread the word i mean yeah
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but to to to what I know of that like it's your job to spread it to who's looking for it yeah and just like I have
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friends who are Jehovah's Witnesses they go knock on doors right this is like the classic thing right and and but you know
45:59
what they also do they take note of every single door that said "No it's not
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okay i'm not interested don't come back." Thank you they they put it down so they know not to knock on that door
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again right that's dope what I like I like the
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Mormons cuz the Mormons will pull up the Mormon the Mormons will pull up in the
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hood get off their bicycles take off their helmets and play ball in the hood
46:30
like the Mormons you told me about these guys bro the Mormons are ballers bro like the Mormon kids look you going to
46:37
see on YouTube there's many videos out there but I've seen it in person cuz I used to play basketball all over the place yeah they pull up on their bikes
46:45
bro and what they're they liter So you since you haven't seen it let me tell you they wearing they're wearing uh they
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be wearing khakis bro or they wearing some type of dress pants with a with a button-down shirt bro and they show up
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in ball they show up and lay it not only do they ball it a lot of the times them boys can ball they lay it down like a
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bunch of white chocolates out there running around like in the Mormon community like they be getting it in wow
47:10
and so I I really respect that like if if if somebody after balling wants to have a conversation then that's that's
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that's that's how they do it though but look what they're doing they they showing a gesture of good faith first
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yeah hey shout out to the Mormon boys that's out there balling putting in that work wow
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yeah so the only guy I've seen show up like that is the professor oh there's a
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lot of them bro and I'm telling you bro showing up where later you look it up you're going to be like you won't
47:42
believe it bro i'm telling you it's a it's a phenomenon a lot of people know about this what I'm talking about like the hood the whole hood knows about this
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is this like the Was this started by white men can't jump no bro the Mormons
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i think the Mormon because he's the That story that story might have came from the Mormons like I'm telling you the
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Mormons been out here doing this since forever since before I was balling like Yeah wow it's It's like getting now it's
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getting more like notoriety because you know social media and people got cameras everywhere but no these guys is off the
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chain man so talking about some of our you know the differences that we've had
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growing up right different cultural you know aspects for for me you
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know I grew up Italian-American right loud family uh definitely not afraid to
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argue or to have differences of opinions with one another i remember growing up
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and they'd be going at it man and and I was the the kid that I I didn't like
48:47
this confrontation i I didn't like how all my elders were always what I saw is going at each
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other's throats man that's literally the words I was gonna use right and and so
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I'd see it and they would get heated cuz often there was you know drinking of some wine involved as well right and so
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the later the night went as we had our family get togethers usually at our
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family's ranch the more heated it got until at some point it was like someone
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just goes "Okay that I've had enough i'm going to bed." You know and the good
49:26
thing about my family is when we woke up in the morning it was like like nothing ever happened yeah we we start from
49:33
scratch again crazy start from scratch again um you know in my family definitely food
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was like a big thing um unfortunately we
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ate lots of pizza lots of bread lots of pasta that's what it was all about and
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and I've learned now my body is not supposed to eat these things right but
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but that's what it was right talking about big family style big Italian family style uh food that uh I didn't
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get to experience for the first time until I ate at uh Moranos in Fort Lauderdale shout out
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to Steve and Debbie Morano yeah Meranos bro it's the best Italian Best Italian food in a
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restaurant that I've had any Oh yeah i think they opened up one I know they did they opened up one in the MGM Grand as
50:25
well in in Vegas really moranos get with it hey fire so Motors check out Motoanos
50:33
all right motoanos was so gangster when I first started going there I went there
50:38
with uh that guy that I be telling you about that I used to work for that I don't like to talk about too much
50:44
because of who he is um we went we went we went uh over there to
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Moranos's and like big family style so Motors you're in there the whole time
50:56
you're in there they're playing like Good Fellas or Casino like on all the TVs nice while you're while you're
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eating but there's a live DJ though so that like you can see the movie but you're hearing the music it's going down
51:08
up in there right and then um when the pivotal moments of the movies come up
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the DJ silences the music and they turn up oh wow the gangster the gangster and
51:19
um when I first started going to Moranos so so let me just get this straight so
51:25
the music's playing everybody's having a good time and then all of a sudden it's like "Oh you think I'm a funny guy?"
51:31
Yeah and and what's so funny about me yeah exactly all that oh wow yeah and uh
51:37
after that um the scene goes and you know it goes back regular but like I say when I first started going to Moanos
51:43
Steve Morano man Steve is a real one man and Debbie I I don't even I don't even know if they still I don't know what's
51:49
going on with them but they were good people but when you went into Moranos bro you just better have your money
51:55
right because at that point in time when you went into Moranos and you looked at the menu there was no prices on the
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menu this just sounds weird he said "You better have your money right because
52:07
when you go in there's no prices on the menu." So what does this even mean means means when when when the meal is over
52:14
they look at you and decide what they going to charge you what may God strike me dead anybody that
52:22
uh anybody that was around uh Fort Lauderdale at that time everybody look y'all know what it is they got prices on
52:28
the menu now yeah of course they do now yeah no but they didn't have prices on
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the menu dog cuz it was gangster like that wow shout out Shout out Big Dog man i
52:40
ain't even going to say man hey we ain't even going to start getting into names man i'm telling you bro the people that brought me over there man you're gonna
52:46
have to bring up names at some point but here we go um so you know tough love and loyalty
52:55
right definitely were different sides of the family right there was sides of the family that were like so tough on us
53:02
especially me and my brother we're the only ones that it was two boys right
53:07
hold on when we sat down and ate it wasn't like
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that you mean your family dinners your guest your family dinners and my family
53:18
dinners was not the same well how were how were yours um
53:25
first of all what kind of food did you guys eat so from the time I was a baby to the
53:32
time I was eight I was with my grandparents mostly and we ate from real country real
53:39
country uh soul food man like like uh black eyed peas and ham hawks you
53:47
know greens you know the mac and cheese that whole My grandma was country country she
53:54
made I don't know if you've ever heard of this but have you ever heard of hogs head cheese i've heard of it but I don't
54:00
know what it is literally it's literally made out of a pig's head yeah and the Yeah there's many stories
54:07
behind that but uh it was just like it was I think I
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think it was strange for me because like two of like two of my uh my my aunt and my uncle they they they have um mental
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disability okay so it would be like me and my brother
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and my aunt and my uncle and my grandparents at the table and I always felt like it was just like
54:35
awkward like like I love my family but and it didn't feel
54:41
like normal i wanted to be with my dad when we finally went and be with my dad
54:47
it was off the chain like dinner was like like a movie dog like we were doing
54:54
it big all the time like anything like he didn't he didn't my dad is like a
54:59
person that it's like he lived life like it's the last day every day so like it
55:04
was it was it was cool it was a different type of experience like having a TV in the kitchen like watching TV
55:11
while we're eating like you know but you guys actually sat at the table yeah true
55:18
story one time I was sitting there at the table eating breakfast
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uh my my dad was here my brother was
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here my uncle was here and his two friends were right here in front of me
55:37
right they was on the TV talking about some guy who just killed some guy in
55:42
North Beach who shot the guy dead right and they show his picture on the TV
55:49
right and I was watching and I looked like this and the guy was sitting at my table
55:54
eating breakfast with us the guy that just un alive somewhere
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oh man yes his name was Giovani and I'm sure it's not Italian
56:07
right and my uncle's like right-hand man was named John Burns and he was like he
56:12
was locked in in North Beach these guys loved my uncle but yeah this type of weird like Yeah but yeah different yeah
56:19
yeah that's different uh but but what I heard was you guys still
56:25
ate at the table together yeah looking back on it now that I have a family though
56:31
like it was it was my family but like my family was not like my family was a
56:36
little different you know what I mean well yeah every family's different but we were a family though so I will say
56:43
how things have changed from the past to now man it's pulling teeth to get everybody
56:49
to sit at the table together right everybody's got their own thing going on
56:56
uh it's not a a huge thing as it was was once where
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it's dinner time now's the time that we all sit together we share stories of our
57:08
day we talk about stuff together we eat together we sh we break bread right that
57:16
used to be the thing at least what I assumed in America
57:21
in most households i don't know if it's a global thing i would assume it probably is that families eat together
57:30
right and it's definitely evolved in today's society where I don't think it's
57:36
happening as much like that a lot more single parents yep
57:42
um what what else do you think could be causing causing that
57:50
differences in in how everybody eats there my my in my house I I do I've been
57:57
to your house it's like your dad eats a certain do you know I do 95% of the cooking in the house
58:03
everyone eats something different in the house yeah we don't just cook a meal and we all eat it sometimes we we get to do
58:09
this but most of the time it's like I'm giving you what you like i'm giving you what you like like Well it me growing up
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is You can't cook them all at the same time no but growing up if we didn't like
58:23
something it was Well that's your dinner yeah that wasn't that wasn't my That was not mine mine was if you don't like it
58:32
don't eat it that was my dad my dad was like "If you don't like it don't eat it." Yeah but you ain't getting
58:38
something else nah I got something else oh you got something else yeah my dad was like "It don't make sense to get
58:44
like like why it's pointless." See there's some things about my dad that's that's really smart i didn't understand
58:50
i wouldn't have You would have expected that right from him of all people but he was like "Yo if you don't like it don't
58:56
eat it go find something else to eat." You know what I mean why Why starve you
59:01
know what I mean why like why be hungry if you don't want to eat it don't eat it why be unhappy eating something that is
59:08
create a different type of different type of thing there energy wise so I
59:13
don't know if this happened around you and your family but it was definitely something that happened around mine my mom would see some of my friends
59:21
and some of the people that I bring over right she'd be like "Oh they're too skinny." And she'd try to
59:27
like continue that's an That's an Italian thing and it is right yeah uh
59:34
shout out Al Serto man rest in peace Al Serto when I when I first started boxing
59:40
up in New Jersey when he met me he was like "We got to put some meat on your bones." He's like "You come here good
59:46
luck." So Al had Al had a tailor shop and a restaurant in one building oh wow
59:51
yeah i was I was a wise guy and uh I would be like "Anytime you
59:57
want something to eat you come here and they'll give it to you whatever you want." When he comes here and asks for
1:00:02
his chicken carbonara you make sure you give him extra pushut that's awesome that was my guy
1:00:11
they will f they will try i definitely you know food was related
1:00:18
to love in my family that's what I'd say like and it and it's still to this day
1:00:26
my mom gets some of her self-worth based on cooking for people me too you know I
1:00:34
I think it Yeah it's not just my mom i think everybody does i love cooking for people man the more the better the more
1:00:41
people that can taste my food the better well still to this day I have not had brisket as good as when I went to your
1:00:48
house years ago and you made brisket thank you brother thank you most people I've been waiting for the next time
1:00:54
people be afraid of that smoke got to put that good 24 to 30 hours on that thing yeah you got you got to That That
1:01:01
thing was fire got a couple secrets but Yeah thank you
1:01:07
so how does you know the overlap between like you know your upbringing different
1:01:14
cultures you're a part of and then cultures like myself uh and and some of
1:01:19
the overlaps and some of the discip I would believe there to be many similarities between uh see me I'm a
1:01:25
multicultural person but I was raised primarily with um see I have a problem even saying this
1:01:33
because I don't believe it to be a real like I don't believe it to be a thing that is uh something
1:01:38
that's um widely recognized by all black people like I don't believe there's a such
1:01:45
thing as a quote unquote black culture that we all agree is a black culture yeah you know what I mean i get what
1:01:50
you're saying so um but I see many
1:01:56
similarities you know what I mean in in the people and in different uh traditions that that they do and in
1:02:04
different uh different ways that they um that they love certain things you know
1:02:09
what I mean yeah so so what are some of them um church
1:02:15
yeah uh so you have in uh you know a lot
1:02:21
of Italians are Catholics you know a lot of uh depending on where
1:02:26
black people are from but like uh in the south a lot of of them are
1:02:32
um African Methodist Episcopal Church okay and uh the church is very strongly
1:02:38
rooted in in these communities for both of them like don't miss it like primarily at least when they're growing
1:02:44
up they don't miss going to church on Sundays a big part of the family uh the the the big dinners with the
1:02:52
families you know uh big family style gatherings eating things of this nature
1:02:59
um storytelling as well you know uh
1:03:04
because both of these groups are are
1:03:09
immigrant Both of them not come from here you know only so many generations have
1:03:16
been here as of right now probably less generations have been born here than was
1:03:23
here before that you understand what I'm saying so um yeah there's a lot of different a
1:03:30
lot of different uh influences I see within both uh the the
1:03:35
um the the respecting of and the uplifting of the elders
1:03:40
um uh you know the the uh hierarchal you know depending on the
1:03:48
family some is patriarchal some is matriarchal you know so respect for your elders and that was a huge thing in in
1:03:56
my world that's something too so you see how you could be like I and I going to say it bro and you know people could
1:04:03
feel how they want to feel but the facts is the facts uh this is a stereotype that what I'm
1:04:09
about to say but it is what it is like yeah
1:04:15
uh black kids ain't talking back like that to their parents bro
1:04:22
yeah like why not oh that uh that that that incites
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violence so them talking back to their parents incites violence yeah so like right now
1:04:35
for example because of the time period that we're in like there it's a lot less kids getting hit by parents but like
1:04:42
some people don't give some people like yeah I'll be damned and that that's out like
1:04:48
you know and yeah and that creates a lot of uh well we didn't talk back to our
1:04:53
parents outside of the house though outside of the house that creates rebellion no I did cuz my dad taught me
1:05:01
to always question authority so he was
1:05:06
authority so So you So guess what yeah that's how I become a man you know
1:05:16
is by doing this by there's never a time where most of the time I can I can be
1:05:22
quiet i can reserve myself but if sometimes my passion overwhelms that
1:05:28
because something I feel about something is so wrong I have to say something i've
1:05:33
seen that in you a few times yeah but that's a necessary thing for you to be able to do to be assertive when you need
1:05:40
to be assertive to tell somebody "No man that ain't right." Yeah you know if not
1:05:46
you cannot be a standup person you know what I mean you can be a standup person but not a standout person you know what
1:05:53
I mean yeah somebody that people know is willing to go the extra mile for the
1:05:59
right thing you know what I mean so what about what about discipline do you think
1:06:04
it was your in your culture and how you're raised uh everybody was extremely
1:06:10
disciplined or were you uh fairly lacadasical
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[Music] me uh we were disciplined because of my dad
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yeah yeah i mean he he been through a lot yeah
1:06:28
um like it's like now I'm I'm 43 years old bro and it's like sometimes now I'm
1:06:34
starting to barely understand some more things about my dad man just about how he thinks and where he comes from you
1:06:39
know but yeah um my dad we you know we do our thing you know we talk and we
1:06:45
work things out and uh I got disciplined in the weirdest
1:06:50
ways bro like I have to like write the dictionary right wait so
1:06:59
so you did something that wasn't probably wasn't your best and then he's like "Oh man instead of grounding you,"
1:07:07
he's like "I don't even know what that means i've never been grounded." Okay like Like you got to understand
1:07:14
something like go to your room you're grounded like I got everything I want in
1:07:19
my room what is that even mean that's why people don't realize well no for me it was go
1:07:24
to your You can't go somewhere you're grounded and you can't play Nintendo
1:07:31
yeah you going to have to You going to have to pop your head in here every 10 minutes to make sure I'm not playing Nintendo though took the controllers man
1:07:37
oh they did you like that well yeah oh that's crazy i mean they because you must have violated before well yeah you
1:07:42
was You was untrustworthy when you push the limits
1:07:48
and they're like "Nah we mean it take your controllers now we know you're not." Yeah dude would
1:07:54
be like Dude would be like "Write the dictionary." Is that why you want a spelling bee yeah
1:08:01
so literally though like I don't even know how you did that write the dictionary though like go in there
1:08:09
write the word read the definition write the definition and then
1:08:15
read the word and the definition and just go like don't be picking random words and flipping pages
1:08:23
just go so how do you not write nowadays that's different copying is
1:08:30
different from uh creative writing no but literally for from what I know of
1:08:37
you writing something down is like this is not Nathan
1:08:44
nathan will do anything to avoid any kind of riding mhm
1:08:50
mhm is this like part of your trauma
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no no because I it was I did not have a choice in that it's like you cannot go
1:09:03
anywhere you don't have a choice of nothing distracting to look around now you gonna sit there and write this write
1:09:08
this dictionary bro so what is the definition of illiterate
1:09:16
illiterate is someone who cannot read or write correct
1:09:23
is it or or and um I think it's read and right read and
1:09:31
it's and is it i'm pretty sure it's and okay yeah so Nathan I love you bro
1:09:37
you're semi illiterate you don't write i can I can write but like I've in the last 10 years I haven't
1:09:44
seen you write anything my problem is when I actually want to write something that comes from here
1:09:50
like that's it just fall it falls short fast bro it falls flat i I got to know
1:09:55
do you write in if if you were to write would you write in cursive no way no i
1:10:02
got one of my brothers that has been locked up for a minute bro and I just got his address like where he's at a few
1:10:09
months ago and I want to write him hella bad bro but I haven't I haven't done it like Cuz you have a block on writing
1:10:16
yeah i'm literally going to write I'm literally going to write a few words on it and like put my phone number on there
1:10:21
and like send it to him bro and a picture of me bro like because I'm not like I like we'll chop it up on the
1:10:28
phone bro yeah but I'm not like doing all that because it's just for me it's not it's not worth what I what I go
1:10:34
through well it's it's one of the biggest lives like showing somebody that
1:10:42
you care about them to and I've and I've been and I've been in that situation
1:10:48
right where it's like yeah when you get that letter them letters are great you feel me that mail call ain't nothing
1:10:53
like that mail call when they say your name you like huh me oh walk up to the
1:10:59
front grab your mail you feel me yeah that's a good feeling but um so I will tell one story i I usually don't get
1:11:06
deep into the stories that like uh put myself out there some of the bad things that I've done right uhoh but I remember
1:11:12
a thing that happened uh and this is concerning uh my
1:11:18
little bro and uhoh lil Bro was always kind of like the troublemaker where you
1:11:24
know I I just wasn't the troublemaker man he's a fun loving guy bro yeah he he is but he's just a fun loving guy get
1:11:31
get in trouble and I forget exactly how shout out Nick Baji
1:11:36
man but my boy I think I was probably like 13 or 14 we're probably at Parkway
1:11:44
at the time oh lord and I I remember Nick was just on my
1:11:51
nerves man so I remember and I just figured out
1:11:57
what weed was uhoh you know like I I seen people around school with it and all this stuff
1:12:03
right so I just remember Nick just like you know he used to get all the attention cuz he was bad right so so I
1:12:10
was like I went into the the cupboard and I I grabbed a Ziploc bag and some
1:12:18
oregano oh and I put it in there oh and man I'm not proud of this but Dirty
1:12:25
D so I I went and said "Dad look what I found in Nick's
1:12:31
drawer." Yeah I did that dad got all mad and so he went and of
1:12:39
course Nick's like "I don't even know what that is i don't even know what that is." Right spanked him right my dad did
1:12:46
something over there like Yeah exactly i was um And then at some
1:12:53
point my dad you know opened it he's like "Let me
1:12:58
see what this is actually what's this about?" He opened it and realized it was oregano
1:13:04
was like "Anthony I'm in my room and I'm like "Oh
1:13:10
no." Like I could tell he was pissed right i hear him stomping around
1:13:16
dude he's looking where Lori where is he where is He's in this room so I I was like
1:13:24
freaking out so what I did is I went and got a book i put it in my underwear
1:13:31
he comes in and he grabs me goes bend over and smack hit his hand right on my ass
1:13:40
but I had a book there i remember he looked at me the his
1:13:47
eyes bro was like enraged he looked at his hand his hand was like beat red
1:13:57
then he left and I was so scared yeah he's like
1:14:03
"I'm I would have killed I would have killed him." That's what he was thinking i'll kill him he He like He never spoke
1:14:09
of this again it was like a thing that never like came back up he never spanked
1:14:16
me again i definitely never did something like that again
1:14:22
and it was a moment that I'll never forget about like you know that I could
1:14:28
do something not cool like that to my brother that he would take a punishment
1:14:35
and then when the punishment came for me for what I did I like in a way kind of
1:14:42
like put it back on my dad and so I don't know what kind of
1:14:48
what that brings up like the kind of crazy that was going on um but it's
1:14:54
something yeah so So hearing that story like how crazy am I bro
1:15:00
you were you were a kid uh like like
1:15:06
I I don't I haven't had many times with my dad where it was like that one time
1:15:11
that he grabbed me right and said some [ __ ] to me and scared the [ __ ] out of me
1:15:17
one time cuz he thought um he had this girl right he had a girl over the house
1:15:23
mhm and um I was upstairs sleeping and
1:15:28
he went outside and walked her outside and he locked himself out the house oh right you were upstairs sleeping i'm
1:15:34
upstairs sleeping so I guess he rang the doorbell ring the doorbell he he ain't I ain't wake up oh
1:15:42
so he did whatever he had to do to get in the house and he he thought that I
1:15:47
was like on some hater stuff like I liked the girl so I was locking him out of the house on some weird stuff oh yeah
1:15:54
and I confronted him about this like several times in my life as an adult bro just to tell him how much of a hater he
1:16:01
is because like I would never do I would never even think some weird stuff like that but you know that's my dad
1:16:08
huh you know my dad was like my dad and my homeboy because I didn't have a mom he was like my dad my brother and my
1:16:14
homeboy so it's like Yeah yeah he was struggling with alcoholism and it's like in ways I took care of him many times
1:16:21
yeah you know what I'm saying so yeah it's a different different upbringing man for sure but I wouldn't I wouldn't
1:16:28
trade it for anything at this point like I I would I would not be who I am if it weren't for those experiences i wouldn't
1:16:35
be able to deal with the things that I'm prepared to deal with head up at any given time if I was not raised in that
1:16:41
way yeah understood so have you thought about some of these things that we went
1:16:48
through as kids and what was taught to us and then what we're choosing to pass
1:16:54
down to our children yeah um like I'm looking at it uh from a
1:17:04
do better than stance i think everybody does that as parents though everybody
1:17:10
wants to do better does that mean they actually do though so like here's what I don't know does everybody even have that
1:17:17
sentiment of do better cuz some people had really good upbringings with really good parents so there is no do better
1:17:24
it's mimic you know what I mean so for me it's
1:17:30
uh don't don't uh don't be doing crazy stuff in front of my kid don't tell
1:17:37
crazy stories in front of my kid don't have other grown folks around uh
1:17:44
drinking or doing stuff in front of my kid that I don't do in front of my kid
1:17:49
um you know uh let him talk let him talk as much as he wants to talk let him talk
1:17:56
through stuff that's definitely something that I'd deploy as well but I I also do believe though that there is
1:18:05
this I'm never going to tell you something wrong for you so when I tell you to do something you do it if you
1:18:11
want to question it you can question it but when I say move you move now because it might just save your life when we
1:18:18
have a lot of freedoms that we give kids in terms of questioning things it might
1:18:24
go too far that they feel like they need to question everything and you literally might be like "Yo move now." And they
1:18:30
don't move and then they're going to sit there and question it you understand what I'm saying yeah that's something that I'm worried about with my daughter
1:18:35
is like it gets to a point where now she's 15 so we're in this scenario where
1:18:42
you know I raised her to be a critical thinker i raised her to to uh talk at me
1:18:49
right to question things just like your dad did you right and but now there's an
1:18:54
aspect of she's 15 and she's pretty smart she's doing the whole debate thing and she's like "Well I I anything you
1:19:02
say is up for potential debate." And there's an aspect of like in the real
1:19:07
world too it's like man sometimes I I don't I don't want to have a debate on
1:19:13
this i want to tell you something and have you go "Okay Dad." And then move forward and just like that there's times
1:19:21
where she wants to She just wants me to listen she doesn't want me to solve her problem
1:19:28
she just wants to talk and it's hard for me to know when those times are that she
1:19:35
just wants to talk and not have me give feedback or tell her how I think she
1:19:41
could uh solve her problem i think it would be helpful if maybe
1:19:47
that like upon entry like either of you state that you know Dad I just really I
1:19:55
got something that's on my chest but I really just need you to listen man that would be very helpful on my end or or um
1:20:03
you know even from your end you know the same thing you know uh so I can let her
1:20:09
know there's something that I really need to tell you but I need this look if this is not up for debate okay please
1:20:16
this you know so it's like look we don't even have to get there and start the debating and questioning like on this
1:20:22
one look I really just need you to do this okay yeah put your stuff down on a
1:20:28
schedule and share it amongst your family group not up for debate
1:20:34
so is culture real or manufactured
1:20:41
both so how are social media and the
1:20:50
algorithms shaping culture faster than like
1:20:55
tradition tradition shaped culture right the awareness you know faster through social
1:21:01
media visibility right but are we losing the the family legacy type aspect
1:21:09
since we're not getting together and eating together that's where a lot of the stuff happened
1:21:16
for for my family you know so what do you when you say culture what do you mean specifically so when I hear when I
1:21:24
when I hear culture I think about the different ethnicities and different
1:21:29
influence that those ethnicities have from the places that they come from in the world
1:21:36
yeah I think that's something and then it's also like your family legacy right
1:21:43
your ancestral type wisdom right the the stuff that for me you know the fact that
1:21:51
my family has had uh the hubcap ranch right and it's been in our family for
1:21:56
over 80 years and you know my greatgrandfather got this place so
1:22:04
his children my grandfather and all his brothers and sisters and all their
1:22:09
friends and their they all went there and then his kids went there who was my mom's generation and then I went there
1:22:17
and my all my generation and then my kid goes there with all that generation it's
1:22:23
like so many generations deep and by going there just showing up at this
1:22:28
place gives us the opportunity to tell the stories to uh do the things like fishing
1:22:36
at the pond like the one of our uh prior episodes we talked about going Yeah the
1:22:41
bass pond you need to go up there man yeah and and you know I remember my
1:22:46
grandfather and my father teaching myself and my brother how to shoot a bow
1:22:52
and arrow to to shoot a gun how to be safe uh doing these things right and and
1:23:00
then and my father telling me that he learned a lot of this by going up to the
1:23:06
ranch and that was my father telling me this right and and then for me knowing
1:23:12
that I've done the same thing with my daughter and brought her up there and
1:23:18
showed her and that's where she shot her tradition that's tradition that's tradition right and but but now it's a
1:23:26
little bit different right things are changing and it's like uh you know in
1:23:32
the time since my daughter was born and where we are now now it's like well you
1:23:38
have a video you create a Tik Tok real well if you look at the time period even like like before us like our our people
1:23:45
were like like America you got to remember America is not old
1:23:50
it's a couple hundred years old yeah but in in in relative time to the rest
1:23:56
of the world man it's very young so like you could see in our in our lifetime all these different changes so if you
1:24:04
observe the the amount of people that there are now versus when we were young peri period an astronomical amount more
1:24:11
of people so you got to look at look at certain things that you got to take
1:24:17
under consideration right the industrial revolution right with the industrial revolution went out of you know like old
1:24:24
style like farming and like things things started being mass-produced right it's like more faster right that's what
1:24:29
it was all about right so it's like we're in a certain place in time now
1:24:35
where it's like
1:24:40
uh I don't know man no everything changed once yeah nobody's
1:24:46
like like when my dad was a kid like like before he was like people
1:24:53
were like hunting for food bro and to put it in their freezers and stuff so like no that's everybody's kid needed to
1:25:00
learn how to shoot right like it was necessary for like boys to become Boy
1:25:05
Scouts and Cub Scouts and all that stuff like people needed to learn how to live bro like you know like but like the the
1:25:11
the need for certain things has diminished over time because of availability
1:25:17
yeah this is a big thing uh for instance in you know my parents or our
1:25:24
parents culture like you said yeah my dad used to hunt he used to go get deer
1:25:30
fish get fish that was the food that got put on our table right
1:25:35
i got to share in that by going hunting with my father right
1:25:41
and but my daughter has never experienced that she probably never will
1:25:48
right unless she wants to yeah unless she wants to which I mean I I'm not sure that that's a a thing in her mind asked
1:25:56
no maybe maybe she'll look back and see this video and be like "Dad you know what i'd like to go and uh you know unal
1:26:03
alive a duck because the thing is though bro and pluck the duck girls be getting down the duck girls be getting down bro
1:26:10
that's why they got that that's why they got that pink real tree brother they be out there getting it in them girls be out there the pink real tree camo you
1:26:17
damn right them girls be out there shooting in bows and the girls are the hardless noodlers there are oh I know
1:26:24
that the girls are the hardest noodlers they are they be getting up in there they stick their arm up in there and they stick their arm up in there bro
1:26:30
next thing you know they under the water they you like "Yo here she go." Next thing you know she coming up with a catfish this big i know that's the
1:26:37
craziest with her arm in the mouth like "Yeah." Have you Would you do that hell yeah man it's just a catfish bro ah that
1:26:44
thing's crazy bro i've seen that uh I'd be more worried about snakes in the
1:26:51
water so but back to the question is it real
1:26:58
or manufactured like the youth of today they see the videos that show that just
1:27:05
like what it is brother what it is are they having their family take them out there and doing these things all of
1:27:10
these different cultures bro and all of these different
1:27:15
traditions on all of these different levels with all of these different people
1:27:21
comprise America it's our differences that make
1:27:27
us just as much as the things we share in common that make us America you know
1:27:34
what I'm saying that's why we different that's why we that melting pot right that they talk about the great
1:27:39
experiment you know what I mean so it's like it can't be bottled as simply as
1:27:45
like is it really yeah it's real bro yeah it's real it's very real but it's
1:27:52
also somewhat manufactured based on the new stuff that comes up just like you
1:27:57
said the industrial revolution came all of a sudden there was machines that did these things now there's all this
1:28:03
technology the changes that come about we create new traditions
1:28:09
yeah so now instead of us going out
1:28:16
and spending time in nature or going hunting and doing these things I will
1:28:21
sit down and watch The Walking Dead with my daughter and this is our and that's fine
1:28:28
that's fine but like again
1:28:33
like life is not permitting things in the same way as it was at that time
1:28:39
either because life is moving faster oh yeah and it's like Yeah if we want to go
1:28:46
hunt some monster whitetail we're going to have to fly to
1:28:51
Montana we're going to have to like like make a whole like trip out this gonna have to be a whole thing like not
1:28:57
everybody is able well and you have to get a we got basic your tag you got to it's it's a whole
1:29:03
process all this stuff we got a basic we got basic life struggles like just like making it through dayto day like to like
1:29:12
like for some people that's like a Yeah but dude dude the struggles are over we we don't struggle like we once did we
1:29:19
used to struggle for a meal bro yo now they got to process you're not you're speaking only on behalf you only
1:29:27
speaking from where you coming from not understanding that the rest of the country Hey bro a lot of people are struggling bro a lot of people are going
1:29:32
through stuff oh I know there's struggle but but what I'm saying the struggle is not the same as it was 100 years that's
1:29:38
not what we talking about we're talking about specifically being able to take a trip to go hunting like like everybody
1:29:46
ain't able everybody can't afford a ticket to fly to Montana to do something like that nobody wants to do that i
1:29:53
don't agree with that the fact of the matter is today's world people are
1:29:58
like they literally see a dead uh animal
1:30:04
they they see a chicken that is not uh put into a plastic wrapper served up i
1:30:11
got a kid that lives that lives one block over from me i'll introduce you to him his name is Cameron shout out
1:30:16
Cameron cameron is like barely 20 yeah Cameron got
1:30:23
pictures yeah Cameron hunting mountain lions bro cameron hunting anything and everything that walks eats and breathes
1:30:30
he's killing it bro and like a lot of people there's like All right put it like this he's the exception it's not It's not an exception i think you have
1:30:37
your your I think your perception is very California right without
1:30:42
understanding all over the country these boys is hunting that's why again that's why Hey that's why I know there's people
1:30:48
that real trees selling so well you know what I'm saying this is That's why Bass
1:30:54
Pro Shops is not just for fish it's strong for hunting too shields all of that stuff this stuff is not It ain't
1:31:01
doing bad those people are doing good cuz people are are still out here getting that in we just We Hey you just
1:31:07
not into it uh there's a lot of fake fronting going on there bro oh
1:31:13
I'm just I'm just telling you yeah I know there's a bunch of people that walk around around with real tree camo and a
1:31:21
lot of this but so I grew up let me tell you let me tell you this here's what I when I when I grew up my dad is is a
1:31:28
fisherman but he's obsessed with fishing so I grew up watching fishing shows and hunting shows
1:31:35
right and all of those shows were on like TNT and TBS right which are
1:31:41
networks from Ted Turner right which is some southern state them boys are out there they get it in on a whole another
1:31:46
level california and uh even Oregon they hunt like hell up there but like over here we just don't hunt as much in
1:31:53
California because of those people that we talking about that going to call PETA on you
1:31:59
oh yeah i I got family members that have got in trouble for uh just going out and
1:32:04
hunting yeah let's Let's I would Yeah i I would like to bring somebody up from
1:32:11
the audience uh I'm looking
1:32:17
for a member here no so
1:32:23
Bella I can't believe how good you look you got so slender
1:32:29
is this all from swimming no what else have you been doing
1:32:34
um I don't know in the beginning of the year just
1:32:39
like went to Tahoe a lot and then
1:32:47
do you do you ski or snowboard when you go or Yeah but I'm talking about like in
1:32:52
the summer like the beginning of the school year what do you guys do up there during the summer i never been to Tahoe
1:32:58
before i've been actually I've been to Tahoe once but I never been to the actual lake before
1:33:03
oh um well we just like go um to the lake
1:33:11
and are there for like the whole day and I go paddle boarding do you bring friends with you or you only go with
1:33:17
your dad or what um yeah i usually bring a friend with me oh that's nice
1:33:23
yeah i want to go up there i I went up there one time to Tahoe to uh deliver a
1:33:31
wedding ring to somebody and when I delivered that wedding ring to this
1:33:40
person they asked me to sit down and stay at dinner with them cuz he was proposing to this girl
1:33:48
mhm and she was there i don't know him either somebody asked me as a favor to
1:33:54
drive up to Lake Tahoe to drop off a wedding ring because this guy was going to propose to this girl at a dinner so
1:34:01
when I get to the dinner it's the guy the girl and her three
1:34:07
kids right and the guy that um gave me
1:34:13
the ring Mhm to deliver it he was there too so let me tell you about that guy
1:34:20
when I when I when I went to meet him to pick up the ring I he's like "Yeah come meet me on the side of the road blah blah blah." Right i was like "Okay I
1:34:28
don't know him right?" So I go meet him on the side of the road he pulls up in a Jaguar brand
1:34:34
new he reaches out of the window with a blue Tiffany and co box passes it to me
1:34:40
and says "I told him not to ask this girl to marry him."
1:34:46
Wait i grabbed the box and I said I said "What?" He was like "I told this guy not
1:34:53
to ask this girl to marry him because he's currently in a divorce
1:34:58
and I'm his lawyer i was like "What?" So I was like "All right." So I took the ring like I
1:35:05
said I'm at the dinner i give him the ring he proposes to the
1:35:11
girl i want to leave and he's like "I've been hurt hearing about you for so long
1:35:16
please stay." I said "I can't stay this is your guys's moment please you know you guys
1:35:22
I'll see you when you get back to the bay." He's They're like "No we insist just stay." So I stay with them and I drink wine
1:35:29
with them all night long and at some point he goes to the girl she said "Yes." Right he looks to her he goes "Oh
1:35:37
babe I know let's hook him up with your sister." Right and then he leans over
1:35:44
the table and goes "And she's rich." I was like "Okay hook me up with
1:35:53
his sister." And that's my wife really yeah
1:35:58
that's the only time I've been to Lake Tahoe true true story it was snowing up
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there that's crazy yeah i I would like to go back up there i would like to go to Lake Tahoe like I want to ride bikes
1:36:11
in the summer like on the you know the snow uh where you go they you know they
1:36:16
they let bikes go down there and I want to do that that's funny
1:36:23
yeah so what do you um what do you think about what we was talking about with
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your dad about about the different ways of communicating and like kind of giving
1:36:34
each other small cues before starting saying something if you know that's kind of what you want you know if you know
1:36:41
like you're not looking to be in a necessarily a conversation right
1:36:46
that's a two-way you like kind of want to just get it out what do you think about that i think you don't always
1:36:52
necessarily know what you want until it's already almost too late to tell the person i agree i get into that stuff all
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the time because I think a lot of times when I start talking I don't want anybody to say anything
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i just want to I just want to be heard but uh you know but I think he's very
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similar like to my wife where it's like he's like a person that like always trying to find a solution to
1:37:19
a problem you know what I'm saying it's like "Oh you're telling me this oh I need to find out solution to the
1:37:26
problem." Which is great but that's not always what we're looking for
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you got any ideas on to how how to make it better and more effective in
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communication or something do you have anything in mind
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um I don't know talking in a good tone yeah he gets a
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little risen right when his chest comes out right and he does this he gets this
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posture about him mhm and he does that thing right look right yeah yeah yeah
1:38:08
he's working on that though he's he's getting better about it we work we work on that through like some work that some
1:38:14
work that we do like like in our work like when we're like like having meetings trying to
1:38:20
figure out stuff sometimes like Yeah there's stuff that we all need to work on but it's never it's always because it
1:38:28
comes from a good place and it's just like uh it's like refle like he's like a
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it's like a reflex for him you know what I'm saying to like boom want to stand up like that you know what I mean but it
1:38:40
doesn't work so it's I agree with that so now I am I am 43 years old and I know
1:38:46
him my whole life and like I have patience so I can sit there let him do
1:38:52
it and not even say nothing to him i might not even say nothing to him in this conversation i might mention it to
1:38:59
him later or I might wait till he's done that yeah but when you do just let him
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do it after he receives it well you know what I mean if you're not confronting
1:39:10
him while he's doing it it works out much better you're videoing me you understand do you
1:39:17
understand what I'm saying oh yeah i I've been learning that that's why I just let him yell at me and then
1:39:24
I just say "Okay." And then he gets
1:39:30
annoyed when I say "Okay." I bet i bet
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do you get it mhm sure yeah ask her about the national anthem experience
1:39:42
no the national anthem experience um
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tell that story were you asked to sing the national anthem um well my coach
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wanted someone on our team to sing it and nobody is a singer on my team and
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all my friends swim team okay and all my friends wanted me to do it
1:40:09
too and I was going to do it but I didn't end up doing it why why did you
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not do it because I didn't tell my coach early enough that I was going to do it
1:40:21
oh and then it was senior night so these seniors said that they could do it and
1:40:29
like I thought that they actually wanted to but they just were like joking around
1:40:37
which is okay but also like I could have also not right
1:40:47
how long have you been singing well I haven't been singing like actually but like I guess I've been
1:40:54
singing like my whole life have you ever sang the national anthem
1:40:59
yes you have yeah at a River Cats game oh you sang
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one you've actually sang a national anthem yeah but it was with my choir in
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sixth grade okay never a solo no okay very interesting mhm
1:41:17
do you have like a desire to to do it like how comfortable are you
1:41:25
with singing in front of people um I mean I've never
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really I mean I guess I have but haven't really been in a situation where I would
1:41:38
do that would you want to it depends at some point maybe probably
1:41:45
yeah you know I'll tell you like my my kid right he uh you know n he
1:41:53
um he says he does not like to compete
1:42:01
but he likes to win so like I understand that I've had a
1:42:09
couple things in my life where I was taught a certain way and I thought certain things was right or I thought
1:42:15
certain things was cool and I went through my whole life not doing them and now I feel like like I I wish I would
1:42:22
have you know what I'm saying one thing I will tell you is try not to let that
1:42:27
happen to you in your life don't be scared of doing something one time you
1:42:32
do it one time at least you you did it and you'll know if you want to do it again or not and you will not have that
1:42:39
feeling like that feeling that I have of like I wish I would have did that cuz now I don't know if I can do it you
1:42:45
don't want you don't want that feeling yeah that's definitely something I'm learning
1:42:53
carpadium what does that mean it is a
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famous Latin phrase means seize the day
1:43:08
c A R P E D I E N
1:43:15
yeah yeah but um thanks for joining me
1:43:21
I appreciate it i know it was impromptu and you weren't this is not something you were ready for so you did really
1:43:27
good thank you i got one question for you though what What is something that
1:43:34
you see yourself doing like your first year in high school you're almost done with your first year see yourself at the
1:43:43
end of high school where you'll be like completed what's one thing that you're like "This is where I see myself at the
1:43:50
end of high school and something that I I I will have done and completed
1:44:01
um
1:44:08
probably hopefully going to state in
1:44:14
debate with my friend really that's a good one probably yeah i
1:44:21
don't know when so is debate uh does debate have seasons
1:44:26
it's like the whole year it's year round not the whole like it starts in the
1:44:33
beginning of the year and then it like ends around right now what do you guys debate though um
1:44:40
different it's like topics that are happening in the world like the last debate was about
1:44:47
AI and if like a G or I think AGI like
1:44:53
the artificial general intelligence so it's like the emotional intelligence is
1:45:01
um good or something basically like that that's very interesting and I debated um
1:45:09
the right to housing wait no I did that in my class I did
1:45:16
um living wage i debated on living So you guys are pretty much debating national topics
1:45:23
okay but more so in the United States this is national national within the
1:45:30
United States national mean nation oh yeah yeah okay right on what's your favorite
1:45:38
sport swim swim out of all the sports you because
1:45:43
you've done Oh volleyball volleyball are you gonna play uh in the next season
1:45:49
in volleyball um I don't You got tall you look like kind of like You got to
1:45:55
remember like the last time I saw you you didn't look like that yeah and that
1:46:01
was like five years ago yeah you were little and now you're all twiggy
1:46:07
no you got like a Yeah you got like an athletes body now that's good
1:46:13
i might just go to the gym and swim okay out of
1:46:19
season with that because I'm going to be doing a lot of academics you think you want to go do some
1:46:25
lifeguard lifeguard training that sounds like a great idea i used to train with the lifeguards over there in um Dave
1:46:33
Florida it's fun it'll be good for you what's your
1:46:40
What do you want to What are you most excited for about this summer
1:46:46
going to the water to the water yeah because I'm going to go to the beach but really Tahoe
1:46:56
and going paddle boarding with my friend what about your dog my dog yeah you got
1:47:03
to bring Boba oh yeah teaching her how to paddle board john's breaking down guys
1:47:12
john thank you yeah thank you thank you Bella for
1:47:18
coming up could you could you put your like put your leg up and sit and let me
1:47:23
get a really good picture and everything
1:47:36
i never thought I'd see Bella up here with me
1:47:41
maybe you should co-host with me one time Bella oh you guys should interview me actually
1:47:49
i don't want to talk about you you're not going to post any of those
1:47:55
right of course not no do not Dada that'd be so embarrassing please don't
1:48:01
your dad's a liar you don't even have social media your dad's a poor liar you You don't even have social media